Canton oil pan part number

smelfi · February 22, 2009, 01:49:36 PM

I've been lurking on this site for several years and I'm hoping to get going on my 78 B conversion to a 5.0 Ford within the next month or so. I have the engine, a T5, and an 8.8 rear end. I'm making a list of parts I need and am stuck on finding the right Canton oil pan. I've been to the Canton site and can't determine which rear sump to get, there are several small block ford rear sumps listed on the site. I've searched this site and another MGB V8 site for the part number.

Anyone know the part number of the oil pan?

Thanks,
Steve Melfi

Moderator · February 22, 2009, 02:38:13 PM

I don't know the part number... but I bet Pete Mantell does.

Pete actually showed two different Canton oil pans in these two articles, and both articles include photos:
Pete's 2007 tech session
Pete's 2006 tech session

Pete's contact info is here: http://www.britishv8.org/Sponsors/Mantell-Motorsport.htm

smelfi · February 22, 2009, 03:21:09 PM

Curtis,
Thanks for the links but I looked at both articles in search of a part number a few days ago.

kstevusa · February 23, 2009, 08:09:27 AM

Perhaps you would consider a Ford Bronco rear sump pan. they have their own pick up and will fit the application. these come from early 80's and have been used in some conversions. i just took the 5.0 mustang pan and cut the front hump out and replaced with sheet metal and added a reworked pickup from a rear sump 5.0
Just a thought.
SAFETY FASTER!

jbarila · February 23, 2009, 05:15:06 PM

I have a canton pan but went with the Bronco pan instead because I already had the correct pickup. I was given the Canton and plan on selling it. The Bronco pan fit perfectly and was really cheap.

smelfi · February 24, 2009, 12:30:50 PM

Thanks for the inputs and ideas guys. Since my original post on this I went to the Jegs web site and found about 10 or so small block ford rear sump pans listed. When I get some time I'll go to the manufacturers sites for more in depth descriptions and specs on those pans.

John, I haven't discounted the Bronco pan idea you suggested.

Steve

rficalora · February 25, 2009, 10:14:33 PM

Not the Canton one, but a ford racing one... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000CEO6PY/ref=asc_df_B000CEO6PY725285?tag=the004-20&creative=380337&creativeASIN=B000CEO6PY&linkCode=asn

I wasn't even aware there was a rear sump pan/pick-up... how shallow is it? E.g., does it enable doing the Ford 5.0 w/o modifying the cross member? Can't imagine it's that shallow, but figured I'd ask.

smelfi · February 26, 2009, 07:32:43 AM

Rob,

When I clicked on the amazon link it went to a ford 429/460 oil pan.
In the jegs online catalog I've found around ten 5.0 rear sump pans, most manufactured by Moroso. I'm considering either a Bronco pan or the Moroso part number 20521. I'm pretty sure the cross member still needs modified with both. The rear sump pans sort of have two sumps, a shallow one about 6 1/2 inches deep in the front for oil pump clearance, and the main sump in the rear.
By the way, I think I'll finally be welding those engine mounts on that I bought from you quite a while back.

Steve Melfi

Bill Young · February 26, 2009, 02:29:29 PM

Guys, I'm no Ford expert but what's the difference in pans between a 302 and a 351 Windsor? Speedway auto has rear sump "claimer" pans for the 351W with pickups for around $100. http://www.speedwaymotors.com/FORD-351-WINDSOR-CLAIMER-PAN-9-QUART,3508.html

ex-tyke · February 26, 2009, 03:10:58 PM

As far as I know, the SBF motors will always have at least a small sump in front to accomodate the oil pump drive... as found typically in a Fox body Mustang....profile attached.
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