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Rick:

I have an OE Leyland/BMC book at the shop.   We should verify it is the same Leyland number before swapping.  (I think the ignition lock is what doesn't swap...?  Definitely the '69 BMC lock assembly is different than the '70 Leyland!  Whether the column is also different to match is the issue.)  

No use rebuilding something that just causes more problems!

$.02

M

(later that day)--->  slop IS in the steering column.   :-(   I will check OE part numbers on Monday.

It IS two different part numbers for steering columns!  (Actually, four total-- 2 C/B, one that crosses over (70-76) and then the later R/B column).  

The break that concerns us is 68-69 are the same, then 70-76 are different.  :-(

So, IF you want to do this column rebuild, I would strongly recommend sending a '68 or '69 column to Mr. Masterman.   Otherwise, we're fixing one problem to only create others...  :-p  (Ignition switch, cowling attachment, etc?)

$.02

M

Does anyone have a 1968-69 steering column that they would like to donate to the Roadmaster???

Thanks in advance.

I have a rebuildable 68-69 MGB column headed to Gerry courtesy of Glen Towery.

Should go into the post soon.

RE:   Fans.  

I think the fans were staying on today, but not sure.  (They were still going 5 minutes after I shut off the car.)   It's possible they needed too-- car was still showing up around 190F.    But as I had to walk away from the car, I tried something.

a) I pulled the rear fuse (for the RH fan, I think.).  The relay clicked, the fan(s) went off.   I put the fuse back in, the fan(s) went back on.  (I don't know if one or both were running-- I just know the sound ceased then returned.)

b) I then pulled the fuse for the LH fan-- I heard a *click* right there at the motherboard (where the RH relay would be!) and the fans went off!   (The LH relay is suppose to be the one in the engine bay!)  

However, was this coincidence?  Because when I put the fuse back in-- the fans stayed off.      

So, don't know if this gives DanM any ideas of other possible issues, and I'm sorry it's not conclusive data.   But we are getting near the "hot" season, so we at least need to be aware of the fan issue.  


Car had a difficult "hot start" today as well (big shake/kickback when starting) and ran poorly under anything but mild throttle.   (Obvious pinging trying to enter the highway.)  


I'm busy with Race Team activities for the next few weekends, so don't think I'll have any time for the Roadmaster until May.  I'm happy for someone else to take over the car....

M

Max,

That gives me a clue, but still not the definitive answer. it does tell me that the problem is not the temp switch, nor is it the RH relay circuit. If everything was ok, both fans should have been on, and when you pulled the RH fuse, the RH fan should have quit and the LH fan should have stayed on. When you pulled the LH fuse, the opposite should have happened. This tells me the problem is in the LH relay somewhere. I still don't think it's a miswiring, as it would happen all the time if that were the case. Did we ever replace the LH relay?

Try this the next time you have a few minutes to spare:  Pull the connector with the black/green wire off the temp switch and connect it to ground. Both fans should come on. Remove it from ground and both fans should shut off. If they don't, pull the LH relay (in the engine bay) and see what happens. If they go off, then the relay is bad.

I think.

Dan:   Got it, and understood.    Will try at some point.  


OTHER NEWS:

Was driving the car today by default (oil cooler line blew on the 4-banger.  Waiting for new one.)   Nice day, thought I'd have some fun.   I punch it for the FIRST time in ages-- and blow the exhaust pipe off the passenger header!  

BRRRAAAWRRHHH!!!   (Loud).   I drop it into 5th and trundle slowly back to the shop (2 miles away).  

[Always something with this car...  :-/  ]

Fixed that, and then tried a small adjustment to the Quadrajet-- lightened the "flapper" for the secondary.   (This on the advice of a local machinist who called himself a Q-Jet guru.   He seemed to know the carb inside and out...)   Anyway, preliminary report is the car feels "crisper".  

He says Q-jets hate big cams and also hate manifold vacuum.  (I'm quoting Him, don't jump on Me.)    I can't do much about the cam, but I can mark the timing settings we're at and see if the behavior is better with the ported vacuum.    Also, he can't believe we haven't drilled the throttle plate (what Carl and I talked about) to get enough air flow at idle....  (I think this is where the man vacuum is helping us....)  

Anyway...   :-/

M

next time just call Rick he'll be right over with his trailer

re:  next time just call Rick he'll be right over with his trailer

...........and his attorney.  

BTW...the steering column has been refurbished and is ready for shipment....please contact me as to where it should go!

Donations to the Roadmaster Project can be made to:

Bill Davidson, Treasurer
7208 W 54th Terrace
Overland Park, KS 66202

913 677-0884
Bill74mgb@yahoo.com

Checks should be made out to:

British American Deviant Automotive Sportscar Society
or
BADASS

I've sent Max an e-mail asking if it's OK to send the finished steering column to him to store in the Roadmaster.

I would think we could get this repair finished before the end of spring....but if the column still needs to be swapped when my turn for the car comes up in August, I'll be happy to address the issue.

Max...have you received the column from Gerry?  Thx    rick

Rick:

Yes!   Checked it out-- looks great.   Haven't compared it to the current one, but...

M

Thx!

OK.....can anyone get the Roadmaster from North Carolina to  Kentucky, Ohio, or Indiana?

Steve DeGroat suggested that Dan and I might drive the car to Omaha from here. We'd also have to drive it back here of course unless we both had a ride back. And if someone could get the car to Charleston, W.Va. he could drive it here. Afterwards maybe one of the northerners could come down and get it so it could make that loop. Just throwing ideas out there, Matthew bought Steve's SBC/XJ6 so we do have a ride.

Jim

I'm based in north east / north central Indiana.

If you want to rent a uhaul trailer or the like, I can probably arrange to deliver a trailer into NC and then uhaul the Roadmaster back to Indiana.  You'd need to let me know what specific start and end points you want though.


Charleston is on the way back to Indiana from NC so that would also be a delivery option.


For clarification, I have a 2013 1 ton dually Ford that I'm using to deliver travel trailers and 5th wheels.  I'm hauling through Horizon Transport although I would do this on the side.

The last time I rented a trailer to haul the Roadmaster, I paid the State of Illinois and my attorney a combined $1100. That was on top of trailer rental and gas for my truck.

The purpose and enjoyment of the Roadmaster is to drive it...unless it's broken.

If Jim and Dan want to drive the Roadmaster to Omaha and then back to my house, I could get them to Florence the day after we arrive in Saint Joseph.

I could then get the car over to Dave Kirkman so he could have some seat time; I would like to take it up to Michigan for the UML Summer Party in August.....and I am also hosting the national MGC meet in Indianapolis in July (a couple of requests for an appearance of the roadmaster has already been received.

Let's get this car back out on the road!

Yes, lets. It's a scant 250 miles between Max and Dan. How hard can that be? I just went 4 times that far in the last two days. And by now the Roadmaster should be quite a pleasure to drive.

Jim

Rick, I sure wish we could have done something to make the memory of that speeding ticket less painful. Most of us have been there at one time or another. These days I rely heavily on cruise control and it's changed my life for the better.

I'll be happy to try to help out. I didn't offer earlier cause I've been in the middle of a home remodeling project and the transmission for my BGT but both projects are getting close to the end.

SPEEDING TICKET! Wow let's hear about this one.            Ruf row         let me guess 160mph!!!!!!  Ninja beat you though.   I know, I know we are all responsible drivers............so no preachin

PJ, you are a Scholar & Gentlemen.  See you in St. Joe?

THREAD:

PJ, Dan & Jim, and I are trying to work out the details to get the RM on it's way North and West.   Stay tuned!  

M

Actually it's really close to 300 miles between Max & Dan. I'm an hour & a half from Wytheville if I can help. Maybe, Mitch (my son) & I can fill in in the middle. Depending on Piper's Little League schedule, of course.