4.020-inch Bore

Started by WedgeWorks1, December 11, 2009, 09:30:27 PM

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NixVegaGT

double post. I hate that.

nalle

I do not think I have ever found so many thread jacks as in this forum.... from big bore to not making tr7 to a tr8... keep it up guys (:

roverman

Bjorn, I call that poetic justice. "They" seriously twisted my serious roller cam", thread into a fat rope!  Mike, If you would, "just spill the beans", we could all get back to our nominal level of sanity?? What say buddy?, u-no, "the needs of the many"? roverman.

BlownMGB-V8

Hey Art, I bet you could take some weight out of that roller cam and make the engine a little lighter. Wonder how much trouble it'd be to run a hole down the middle of it? Come to think of it, with your Rotus heads you might save a whole lot of weight that way.

Jim

WedgeWorks1

The machinist put it in simple terms until it works I don't need to know and if I did.......well you don't want to find out the consequences are of treason!
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NixVegaGT

Ha ha ha ha! You're the best, Mike. Merry Xmas.

roverman

Jim,Nik, whom-ever... I guess we're not "jacking",(not same as stroking-Nic) this thread, since we be-speakin,Bores? Actually, 907 cam do have hole,(long-one), jus' not as big as you would like, fellas. True to form, I'm considering, "alternative" material? "It's only too lite when you can't get it down"- Dorothy.

NixVegaGT

They're Ford 4.6 sleeves. Just to pitch a guess in here. Regardless of what Mike is doing, are the 4.6 sleeves flanged? The length has got to be right. Maybe a less pricey option than importing from UK.

roverman

Nic, I might be on a frayed-thread here? You're sayin Mike is using Ford 4.6L Flanged liners for a 4.02" bore? Nic, He's got duct tape over his mouth!  How you gonna set the hook with that "W.A.S." ? roverman.

NixVegaGT

4.6 flanged liners wouldn't happen anyway because they're 3.7" at their largest... Maybe LS sleeves would work? I'm having trouble finding them for sale anywhere.

mgb260

LS 6.0 has 4" bore. Darton?

roverman

There seems to be a lot of interest in fantasizing a 4" bore Rover.Why not ,cut to the chase, forum your buying power with "Ian" at Wilcat, an getter-dun? U -no, 401"402-whatever it takes.roverman.

NixVegaGT

Cuz it's fun to work through the problems. I think it also helps solve some potential issues and expands our potential for creative solutions.

mgb260

4.8-5.3 LS bore is 3.78. Those sleeves are common and would leave a little more meat in the block.

hoffbug

Originally posted by NixVegaGT
4.6 flanged liners wouldn't happen anyway because they're 3.7" at their largest... Maybe LS sleeves would work? I'm having trouble finding them for sale anywhere.

Darton has them in stock.
 Did you look at the Modular integrated Deck link I posted earlier???

NixVegaGT

Yeah. Thanks man. I was wondering about something a bit simpler but I did find something on the Darton website. Are they all MID liners there? I'm pretty sure that's an upgrade. The ones listed for the LS seem pretty thick. I guess that would be better for wet liners anyway.

On the MID liners: I really dig the coolent passages through the Siamese and the deck. The coolent at the deck has got to help the head gasket cooling a lot. Those are cool.

Darton also lists a long 3.7" liner that would work great for the monster stroke 350 Rover:
T-3750     3.700(bore)     3.975(OD)     0.138(thickness)    6.100(length)    0.650(flange)     4.250(flange dia.)

6.1" length is an extra 3/4" longer. Good news there.

Mike, while you were in the process of boring out the block how much aluminum did you find behind the liners?

mgb260

You could probably order LS sleeves from Chevy.

hoffbug

Nik.. Darton makes all types of liners..
 I just though the MID stuff was interesting in comparison to what Mike is doing.. I looked into their stuff before I ordered the Westwood sleeves.. Darton was about 25-30 more per sleeve but was a true custom order..

WedgeWorks1

I think the motor is going to a double wow factor of "great project" & "ouch my ass"

roverman

Mike, aren't you being just a little, Smokey Yunick cagey, about this? If you took the duct tape off, maybe we could grasp what your previous W.A.S. meant? "Ouch my ass"? Did Nic sell you his canvas seats? Prying minds want to inquire. Beans Mike,beans-just spillum ! roverman.

NixVegaGT

I'll contact Darton about the "Blanks" I listed above that I found on their site. See how much they go for. They don't look custom order on the site... I'll find out. If they are less than $600 it may be worth looking at...

roverman

Sorry Mike, You been "Smokey Yunick" on us too long! LS1/LS6 flanged liner, Melling # CSL332F, buy it now,Ebay$42.98ea. (10)avail.Of course the,"very nice", Darton MID liner is also available-(slightly higher@ $1,359.00ea.) I'm thinkin a little shopping is in order-Nic? Anyone other than "Jim", notice the 4.5/4.9 Caddy with the head studs going,"long" outside the block? Jim, we wanna put Northstar heads onnit! Nic wantz a 4" bore innit! I hope we're not left-wanting? roverman.

hoffbug

Mike .. Im wondering.. Dd your machinist groove the lower outside of the liners for O-rings?

MGBV8

Really enjoying this thread. In fact, it's killin' me!

Hmmm, a 4" bore combined with the stroke of a 4.2 Rover would net a Rover version of a 302 Chevy Z28 (or real close).  That would be right up my alley!

Dale Spooner,  I hope you are following this.
Carl

WedgeWorks1

Guys,

Im trying to deal with inner conflict. On one hand I have let some information out since this seems to be the place of roverperimentation (I will trade mark or copyright the term) and well then there is the fact that the machinest is keeping his information locked up. I hope the engine holds up and he has ordered some real nice composite head gaskets with o-rings so some where either the head side or the top of the block/liner will need a grove......or both! Im dying to see and hear this thing run and the dyno......should be impressive. I know the heads on the first will be nothing special but heads are easy compared to making the block with radical liners work. As soon as I know something and I get permission from the President/CIA/Homeland Security and FBI I will let you in on it. Be prepared to read between the "blacked out" words. By the way Christmas was a steering wheel for my TR8, no engine or updates, sorry.