Electron Beam welding

Started by roverman, July 13, 2009, 05:33:30 PM

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roverman

Hello out there. Anyone have first hand knowledge with this type of welding. I have a project ,in aluminum, that requires this.  As a side note, this is how "Fluid Dampener", harmonic dampeners are assembled.  Thanks, roverman.

BlownMGB-V8

It's done with an alien ray gun. No, seriously!

Jim

roverman

Ok Jim, Is that what they told you?  I think I'll need to pay an american company serious change for this project. Probably "soft vac. or no vac" and "high voltage", perhaps within a "plasma window" configuration. I've personally have not used this process, but it appears to be suited for my needs.  roverman.

roverman

Ok Jim, Is that what they told you?  I think I'll need to pay an american company serious change for this project. Probably "soft vac. or no vac" and "high voltage", perhaps within a "plasma window" configuration. I've personally have not used this process, but it appears to be suited for my needs.  roverman.

BlownMGB-V8

Art, be sure to take pictures for us. EBW does make some particularly nice welds, is pretty specialized and used more for production type applications. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_beam_welding

Usually for small quantity applications other joining methods are used. Are you having a fluid damper made?

Jim

(It is still an alien space ray though)

BlownMGB-V8

Apparently EBW is particularly well suited to making deep, narrow weld seams with penetration in the range of 2-6" with weld zones under 1/2" wide. Not building a battleship are you Art? A tank maybe?

Jim

NixVegaGT


roverman

Gentlemen.... Let's not read into this. This project is for "friendly battles only"  No fluid damper, no alien abduction, maybe some blown-off doors... but that remains to be seen.  Speaking of "flying", anyone run the "Maxon Mile". It's on my horizon and I  could use some, first hand knowledege. Thank You fellow motorheads, roverman.

BlownMGB-V8

According to Steve DeGroat who is sitting on my left at the moment, it costs $50 to join the organization, website is LSR-ECTA.com Keith Kirk, costs $100(advance) or $120 for the weekend. Doesn't run in July or August. You can send Steve a PM, but he won't be back home for a few days.

HTH,
Jim

MGBV8

I had to Google it.

It's called the Maxton Mile & sounds like something I REALLY need to do.

More info here:

http://www.ecta-lsr.com/
Carl

roverman

Fellow "Speed Seekers", anyone going to "Maxton Mile" in Sept.? I plan to fly there to, "scope-it". I think my "Huffaker", would like it there. It's gonna take some  Motor ! Perhaps some of us can meet there?  Art from So.Cal.

roverman

Anybody? Perhaps you got a glimpse during their, "experiments" on you? I have the "need". My stg. II heads, have the "need". We want the power ! I can't wait another hour. Let's build a "hp. golden shower", etc. etc.roverman.

NixVegaGT

I wonder if we could weld the aluminum bore liners with this method.

roverman

UGH! What you mean we? paleface.VERY expensive for non-prodution use. Your better half is giving you an unlimited budget in 2010? If I can get two heads, "EB'd" for 300-$500,(1 weld ea.), I'll be strokin/danglin articiple, like yuse-guys.Preheat and tig is a good/cheep method for 4" bore,symesed alum.cans. Ray Gun not required,(no, not a dead president).roverman.


BlownMGB-V8

I guess you could just weld those tin cans top and bottom right? Any gap in the middle just lets coolant circulate? No real pressure there from the piston anyway.

Jim

roverman

Ok, now we talkin "tin" bores? I thought we workin V8's? Stainless bores? Aluminum/cast iron bores? I think I'm more confused than "bored".Can we just "hone" our chat-skills here ? you know and "focus"-like...Nic, the non-machinist who will "Tell-All".....MIKE,Jim/clan.     roverman.

slow_M


NixVegaGT

WOW! Where'd you get that pic? Look at all those wires. LOL!

roverman

Bernard, nice "teaser", thanks but about as "sharing" as...MIKE ? Intakes look like P 76, could it be ? If so, Nic must find this abomination to further conjugate. Nic, 4.03 bores,(16) should be enough? At least 4" stroke? "It's hip to be square" @ Tractor Pulls ? roverman.

slow_M

Art,

almost forgot , this guy may be able to help you with what you're looking for,
http://www.aardemasohc.net/index.htm

B

roverman

Thanks Bernard.I sent them an e-mail and it didn't foward. I'll call them Monday, their like 30 mi. away.roverman.

roverman

Bernard, I talked to "Pete" today. VERY interesting!  No EB welding, but lot's of data exchanged. I suggest reading the 907 thread. Thanks again for the lead. I predict a very good year for sbb/Rover.  roverman.

roverman

I'm still lookin.Virgin heads in dire need of sacrificing to the horsepower gods. Pete Aaardema say he "tigs" together between ink/ehx. valves. I want "EB" between companion cylinders, I believe to be more durable. I firmly believe this head will out-flow the, "TA" or "Wildcat". I'd like to prove it. I'm thinkin they'd work pretty good, even on a 4" bore. Unfortunately, it looks like we're unable to-"MIKE" a 4.020" bore !  ever.......roverman

slow_M

I knew some guys in Florida that had a sweet rig to do "plasma" welding.
I suspect that it's a different term for the same process.
If you're (fairly) interested, I'll dig them out, but it'll take a bit of sleuthing.

Why not look at the flow numbers first and determine if it's worth pursuing?
B.