which oil pan tr4/302 ?

[sellersrodshop]

for you guys with 5.0/302/sbf, are you using the old early front sump pan or the fox style double sump pans?

[rficalora]

Don't know what the clearances are like on the TR4 but I'd go with the front sump if it'll fit.  On  the MGB the front sump is too deep so you have to use the double sump pan.

[epeppy]

Steve, I used the double sump pan.  Bought the kit from Summit.  Still had to reduce the height of the front crossmember.  What I did was what Dan Masters did.  Look on his write-up of his TR6. I'm assuming the 4 and the 6 have the same chassis.  That may be a bad assumption

By the way, I finally got my body back from Brett Hixson.  He did a great job blasting.  Forgot to look you up on my way home from Nashville.  Maybe next time.

Ed

[IaTR6]

Ed: Thanks for posting these pictures. I have a similar modification in mind, and have acquired a section of a scrap frame that I will use to develop my plan. I seem to remember Dan Masters commenting on the front sump, and his concern that it would cause oil to dribble over the crossmember. I know he then fabricated a modification to the pan that eliminated the front drain, but if it is an issue, could a permanent stub extension be screwed into the drain, and then put the drain plug in the end of the extension?
Dennis

[sellersrodshop]

ed, thanks for the pics! figured you had picked up your body. looked for it while I was there dropping off some motorcycle frames & didn't see it.

dennis, had a car a few yrs ago that the oil drained all over the crossmember & made a mess when it was changed. I made a "trough" out of a split piece of pvc pipethat clamped to the crossmember  & channeled the oil from the drain to the pan & bypassed the crossmember completely. took about 5 mins to make.

[BlownMGB-V8]

My truck is like that, but it has a factory trough formed and welded to the crossmember. I'm thinking a light piece of angle iron may serve the same purpose and should be easy to tack into place.

Jim

[Dan B]

I don't think it would matter which sump you used for a TR4, since the frame is pretty much open under the engine.

[danmas]

I don't know if it's needed for the TR4, but modifying the oil pan is no big deal (after all, I did it - so anybody can).

I made a cardboard template, transferred the shape to a piece of sheet metal, and then hand formed it to fit. I used various objects found around the shop to shape the metal - a piece of drain pipe, ball peen hammer, 2x4, etc, and then had a friend weld it for me. I just used a small piece of metal to cover the front oil drain.

On my MGB, the oil from the front drain drips onto the steering rack slightly, so it's no big deal to wipe it off. On the TR6, it would have made a BIG mess!

Another plus - it adds a quart or two to the oil capacity.

Here's a couple of pictures of the completed pan.