Did a compression test on my stroked Olds 215, not good. #4 cylinder at 50 lbs.

Started by Gswest236, April 24, 2025, 09:43:55 PM

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Gswest236

Yes, wondering if a new one would be worth it. This thing is over 50 years old. I'll get it out from under a bench and inspect it before I spend a day cleaning it. I'm assuming it's a stock Olds oil pan, but we'll see. I have to remember this block has Buick numbers but has the extra head bolt holes like an Olds block.

MGBV8

Can you even get a new oil pan? Buick & Olds 215 oil pans are the same.
Carl

mgb260

I think the Rover 3.5 pan will bolt up but depth and pickup are different.

Gswest236

I did get the 5.5" stainless bolt in, so the timing cover and water pump are good to go. It appears the oil pans aren't available new. So, I'm going to use what I have after I clean it up. Too bad, since there are inexpensive pans for other SBCs.

Gswest236

Now I just have get the flange back to flat, then paint it.

Gswest236

Cleaned up and painted; high temp paint.

MGBV8

Carl

Gswest236


Gswest236

My Melling 20-IS1 oil pickup tube does not work with my oil pan. The oil pan hits the pickup filter in the back and the pan cant move forward to line up the bolt holes. Theres a 20-IS2, and I'm wondering if thats what I needed??

mgb260

Scott, that is the one we used. It is for a 4.5" deep pan and the other was for a 5.25" deep pan. Try turning it around where it mounts. It is sort of a mid sump.

Gswest236

I'll flip it around and see. Thought about that but looking at the pan, it seemed like it wouldn't work turned the other way. Is there more than one 215 oil pan out there? (used of course)

mgb260

Jon's pan looked like yours, but someone welded a baffle in. Put a straight edge across the pan rails and measure the depth of the sump. If about 5 1/2" you need the other pickup.

Gswest236

I measured it, it's 5.25". So I need the 20-IS2 from Melling. ??

Note: I fixed the part # typo.


Gswest236

Can there be 2 different depth oil pans with these Olds/Buick motors? It's no big deal, we'll get the other one.

mgb260

I think they are all the same. Try centering the sump over the pickup and then sliding the oil pan back without touching the gasket and see if it clears.

BlownMGB-V8

I've always just bought the V6 pickup from TA. Never had an issue with it.

Jim

Gswest236

I called TA because they don't show the 215 in any of their pickup tube options. Their rep said there was nothing in their database that showed a tube for the 215. I told her there probably was one that was compatible. She asked me if I found out which one was compatible with the 215 to let her know and they would update their website. Mine came from Rock Auto which is where I reordered the Melling 20-lS2. Around $30

BlownMGB-V8

215 uses the same one as all the small block Buicks and also the V6. The big block may also use that one. I'm sure we put the 5/8" pickup on the 455. Too bad Tim retired. He knew all this stuff. Sherry isn't as knowledgeable. She does a decent job but she isn't Tim and she knows it.

Jim

Gswest236

I installed it as one pic shows facing rearward. Once installed the oil pan will not sit lined up to the bolt holes. It's about 1/2" or so back. The screen is hitting the pan. I pulled out my old one and it's obviously longer and angled a little differently. I get the new one Thursday I think, so fingers crossed.

BlownMGB-V8

Also if it comes down to it, it's possible to bend that tube a bit.

Jim

Gswest236

I think this pic shows the difference in the 2 pans. My oil pickup tube probably is meant for the one on the left. Its sump is moved back compared to the other one and its shallower (4.5"). That's where the interference is.

mgb260


Gswest236

I'm not sure that pic is of 2 Buick/Olds pans. But the guy was posting about the different oil pick up tubes on 215's and how to avoid using the wrong one.

MGBV8

I am always skeptical of some random person's statement as fact on a forum.  Here & on MGExp, there are a lot of members whose opinions/statements that I trust.  Of course, I have been a member of MGExp since 2995 & a member here since the beginning (2007).

According to a YouTube video (maybe he was the one that posted that info), the pan on the left is a Buick 350.  On the right, is a Buick 300 pan.

I "think' the Buick 300 pan is very close to the same as the 215, so the Melling 20-IS2 should work for both.  Still looking on the Olds 215. I was thinking it may hold 5 qts. of oil vs 4 for the Buick.

That oil pan pic in post #708 sure looks the same as my Buick 215 pan.
Carl