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General Category => Engine, Transmission, & Rear Axle assy. => Topic started by: 88v8 on June 12, 2022, 05:10:52 AM

Title: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: 88v8 on June 12, 2022, 05:10:52 AM
Some engines used to be painted internally, to aid oil run-back, and when new to seal in casting sand.
Glyptal.... https://www.frost.co.uk/glyptal-red-enamel-946ml-us-quart/

Worthwhile on a rebuild?
Or only on a racing engine?
Or not at all?

Ivor
Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: BlownMGB-V8 on June 12, 2022, 07:23:17 AM
Ivor, I used silver Cerrakote on my stroker 300 but it'll be awhile before I can tell you how well it holds up.

Jim
Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: Jim Stabe on June 12, 2022, 11:36:27 AM
I have always been hesitant to paint the inside of the block or anything else that has oil running over it. All it would take is a small bit of paint that wasn't adhered well to get sucked up in the pump and ruin your entire day. Nothing wrong with smoothing the cast surfaces and streamlining the drain back holes but I would stay away from coating the surfaces. Just my $0.02
Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: MGBV8 on June 17, 2022, 10:21:25 AM
"Nothing wrong with smoothing the cast surfaces and streamlining the drain back holes"

More than good enough for most of us.
Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: tr8todd on June 20, 2022, 06:43:59 AM
This Olds block came with a parts hoard I acquired some years ago.  Looks slick, but don't know if I will ever use it.  Was slated for a dry sumped very high performance engine with Volvo adjustable rockers, big cam, high compression pistons, yada yada yada.  It was to go into an aluminum monocoque custom built 2 seat race car thingy.
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Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: 88v8 on June 21, 2022, 04:22:20 AM
I think it's a very different proposition, factory painting where the block is new and clean, really clean deep down in the pores, and the paint can be slow baked.
I'm not sure it's really possible to deep-clean a used block.

Perhaps for a show rod with a glass sump.

Ivor
Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: BlownMGB-V8 on June 21, 2022, 08:44:50 AM
I painted one. First I baked the block to burn out all the oils, then I sandblasted it, then I solvent washed it and dried it for a couple of days, and finally sprayed it with Cerrokote and have let it cure for months in a dry location.

Will it stick? I hope so. But, rust never sleeps.

Jim

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Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: MGBV8 on June 21, 2022, 09:53:19 AM
You fit that in your oven?
Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: BlownMGB-V8 on June 22, 2022, 09:48:24 AM
Yep. Ran the self cleaning cycle on it.
Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: mgb260 on June 22, 2022, 10:24:58 AM
Wife must not have been at home! LOL I got caught cleaning tail light and front parking light lenses in the dishwasher!
Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: MGBV8 on June 22, 2022, 01:06:22 PM
He has his own oven (& washer & dryer) out in his workshop.  I would have liked to have seen that iron block go up the stairs & into the oven.  Probably brought it over the side.  Tow motor or hoist?
Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: mgb260 on June 22, 2022, 01:26:14 PM
Yeah, I knew he had his own oven. Just my attempt of humor. A couple of strong young helpers could pack it but probably a hoist.
Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: BlownMGB-V8 on June 23, 2022, 08:30:57 AM
Fork lift. The mezzanine railing has a section that lifts out. (Unfortunately the fork lift has a bad seal so I can't use it much and it only works inside where there is concrete) Still had to get it over to the oven though. The block weighs 140lbs so heavy yeah but manageable. I might have used a dolly, don't recall. The rack in the oven sagged a bit. I've abused that oven very badly to the point where it needs remedial attention on the controls. Strange but it seems they never were intended to heat a large 1/4" thick sheet of brass with all 4 burners under a 25 gallon pot. There was some meltage but it's all good, I'm sure I can fix it. Running the self clean cycle on engine blocks was also a bit excessive. You really don't need 700 degrees F to bake a block and the oven wasn't designed for that kind of thermal mass at that heat. It's an all day project. But on the plus side when it's done you just shake out the ash. So to speak. Seriously though, 500 degrees for a couple of hours is enough.

I still hadn't installed the 2nd hand dish washer, and then I went and stole it for the bus. I really wanted that for the shop, but apparently not all that badly. Speaking of washer/drier I have a load of shop rags to run.

These are all 2nd hand appliances of somewhat dodgy nature but usable. They simply turn up from time to time and make serviceable if somewhat temporary auxiliary shop equipment. I'm sure many of you have done the same.

Jim
Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: MGBV8 on June 23, 2022, 11:12:56 AM
500 degrees worked fine for that exhaust manifold we cooked.  Probably would have for that block with more time.
Title: Re: Painting the inside of the block
Post by: soi6 on August 23, 2022, 07:22:15 AM
Here in the Uk, sounds starnge but get down to Wilko & buy some red step paint, I was advised by my local engine machinest to use it, Ive used it & my friends have on Ford, Chevy  blocks, just de grease it well & its never a problem!