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General Category => Rootes Group Cars => Topic started by: MattyBNYC on January 07, 2022, 12:47:23 PM

Title: Pricing Guidance - 65 Sunbeam Alpine V8
Post by: MattyBNYC on January 07, 2022, 12:47:23 PM
Hi there - wondering if any of the gurus of Sunbeams might be willing to offer me an opinion on pricing of a V8 Alpine I have my eye on purchasing. It looks to be a very well-executed conversion by an experienced Sunbeam owner/craftsman, who has done at least six other V8 or V6 conversions prior. While I'm sure like many restorations the actual expense and man-hours are much higher than what's being asked, I do have to stick within my buyer's budget. We're members of the same Club and I am keen to not disrespect the owner/builder with a low-ball offer. Would anyone be willing to share their advice if I shared pictures and the asking price?
Title: Re: Pricing Guidance - 65 Sunbeam Alpine V8
Post by: Spitfire 350 on January 07, 2022, 01:35:37 PM
I don't have much in the way of advice, but I would love to see some pictures......
Title: Re: Pricing Guidance - 65 Sunbeam Alpine V8
Post by: MattyBNYC on January 07, 2022, 02:03:18 PM
Thanks, Phil - appreciate your quick response. Happy to share some photos. The tricky thing with the conversions - V6 or V8, there just aren't enough market sales data points for me to really assess whether the seller's ask is appropriate or too much, which is why I thought I'd ask here... There is still some work to do on this as well in terms of a respray, and I'd be inclined to work a few more minor brightwork pieces back into the body like trunk lifts, front grille and emblems, but I personally like this paired back, simple aesthetic the builder went for... any thoughts are welcome!




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Title: Re: Pricing Guidance - 65 Sunbeam Alpine V8
Post by: mgb260 on January 07, 2022, 10:44:34 PM
I know that car! Joel (Procraft) On the SAOCA board build. If I was Joel I'd want at least $25,000. He spent a lot of time and money on that build. It does need paint though.
Title: Re: Pricing Guidance - 65 Sunbeam Alpine V8
Post by: MattyBNYC on January 08, 2022, 10:57:08 AM
Yes that's right Jim, I'm a SAOCA member too, and got in touch with Joel. He does great work from what I've seen,

Your POV is really helpful, and appreciated.
Title: Re: Pricing Guidance - 65 Sunbeam Alpine V8
Post by: MattyBNYC on January 08, 2022, 11:52:39 AM
Any other thoughts are still welcome!
Title: Re: Pricing Guidance - 65 Sunbeam Alpine V8
Post by: 88v8 on January 09, 2022, 04:59:52 AM
On BaT, I see a V6 sold for $23,000, https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-sunbeam-alpine-23/

another at $34,250 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-sunbeam-alpine-22/

a less than perfect V8 auto at $16,000 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1966-sunbeam-alpine-12/ lowballed by a bunch of fusspots imv

another V6 bid to $14,250 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-sunbeam-alpine-4/

and another at $25,250 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-sunbeam-alpine-15/

this V8 which was of more interest to me at $37,725 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1953-sunbeam-alpine/

another V8 from four years ago at $19,500 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-sunbeam-alpine-3/

and this V8 five years ago at $21,750 https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-sunbeam-alpine-alger/

Make of that what you will.

In my experience, one regrets more the things one didn't do.
These cars are few and far between, if you want it, buy it.
The pleasure will remain when the price is forgotten.

Ivor
Title: Re: Pricing Guidance - 65 Sunbeam Alpine V8
Post by: mgb260 on January 09, 2022, 06:17:43 PM
Ivor, good comparison! Average of $22,000
Title: Re: Pricing Guidance - 65 Sunbeam Alpine V8
Post by: MattyBNYC on January 09, 2022, 07:46:49 PM
Outstanding info and I'm incredibly grateful for the input Ivor, and the advice.

I'm taking the plunge and hope I can take this one home.

I'll share an update either way here.

What a great community; thank you all again!
Title: Re: Pricing Guidance - 65 Sunbeam Alpine V8
Post by: 88v8 on January 11, 2022, 12:55:39 PM
Probably a good decision to go for that one.
It can take a lot of time and effort to get a car right.

Mind you, if you want the look but aren't particular about the underpinnings here's a Tigerish with Gateway, a 383 LT1 and overdrive auto for just $14,500
https://www.gatewayclassiccars.com/vehicle/DFW/1943/1967-Sunbeam-Tiger
OK, it's on an S10 pickup chassis and looks a little peculiar, but at that price no call to get picky over the details!!

Ivor

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Title: Re: Pricing Guidance - 65 Sunbeam Alpine V8
Post by: MattyBNYC on January 12, 2022, 05:38:21 PM
Thanks for sharing that Ivor - I'm honestly surprised Gateway isn't trying to sell it for double that price.
They tend to really jack up the prices. Peculiar is the perfect word.