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General Category => Bodywork, Paint, Interior, Trim, & Wiring => Topic started by: rficalora on June 05, 2015, 08:40:45 PM

Title: Splain it to me...
Post by: rficalora on June 05, 2015, 08:40:45 PM
I kept finding my driver door popped in the mornings.  It started happening when the car sat for shorter periods but still only when it sat for 10-12 hours or more

I figured a circuit was draining voltage so it pulled half the fuses one night - still happened so put those back and pulled the other half.  Same thing.  So it isn't a voltage drop problem.  

Then decided maybe the relay was bad.  Replaced the relay and viola.  Door isn't popping unexpectedly any more

What would make a defective relay trigger after sitting for more than a certain number of hours?
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: DiDueColpi on June 05, 2015, 10:39:13 PM
It was a spurious reverse graviton flux incident.
Aggravated by a one half earth rotational production fault.
The short answer is....
Chinese relay.....

Live like you mean it.
Fred
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: Jim Stabe on June 05, 2015, 10:53:56 PM
They just found another way to piss us off besides hacking our computers and violating our patents.
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: DiDueColpi on June 05, 2015, 10:56:18 PM
You mean that's not their stuff??
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: Jim Stabe on June 06, 2015, 12:08:54 PM
Rob, you don't need door latches. Just weld the doors shut and hop over. I actually considered that for my car at the beginning but as arthritis sets in it is not quite as appealing an idea..
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: pspeaks on June 06, 2015, 11:54:22 PM
I thought of that too but it's much harder in a GT :-)


Paul
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: MGBV8 on June 07, 2015, 12:35:21 PM
Am I having Deja Voodoo?
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: rficalora on June 07, 2015, 01:54:19 PM
It's been a few days and the door hasn't spuriously popped, but I still don't get what would've caused even a poorly made relay to energize but only after the car sat for 10hrs or more.
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: BlownMGB-V8 on June 08, 2015, 11:57:46 AM
Simple. It's inviting you for a ride. Anyone could see that.

Jim
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: Preform Resources on June 08, 2015, 04:46:21 PM
Rob, I think Fred was right, you prolly gotta get one of them Flux capacitors,,,, uh huh
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: Charles on June 09, 2015, 10:16:43 PM
Rob, do you use a fob to open the door? I do and I found that sometimes when I unlocked my truck door it would also open my B door. Just might be someone close by that got a Google wrist thingy thats openning your door. Just wrap your car in mumetal, that will cut down on the flux lines.

c-u-n indy
charles
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: rficalora on June 09, 2015, 11:23:19 PM
I do use a fob to open the door.  My first thought was a neighbor's car or garage door opener, but it started happening at other places too.  And the duration till it'd pop started decreasing a bit.  We're not too far from Nawlins (that'd be New Orleans for those of you not from round these parts) so I'm going with Carl's Deja Voodoo.
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: roverman on September 07, 2015, 04:46:35 PM
First they hack our computers, and NOW our "fobs". What's next, they infiltrate our rice, at weddings ??
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: rficalora on September 11, 2015, 11:52:43 PM
I replaced the relay before the Indy meet and thought that solved the problem.  My door didn't spontaneously pop the 10 or so days we were on the trip.  But, sitting in my garage, the driver door is popping on its own again!

Its funny you re-surfaced this thread today too , Roverman.  My garage door opened itself last night and a couple times today too.  If I believed in that stuff, I'd think some spooks were playing tricks on me!

I'm back to thinking it's RF interference from something else but not sure and not sure how to figure it out.  But, I'll admit I checked my wife's aluminum foil... Not enough to wrap the car.
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: Jim Stabe on September 15, 2015, 06:12:29 PM
Can you change the frequency it uses? It may be close enough to a nearby garage opener, TV remote or the neighbor kid's remote control car. It's issues like you are having that made me decide against the keyless "start button" ignition on my car. Good ol' key and manual switch always works.
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: DiDueColpi on September 16, 2015, 01:32:30 AM
I put a Bluetooth recognition device into my Range Rover.
Took the security chip from my remote and glued it inside my Blackberry.
Now  just walk up to the truck and it unlocks and enables the push button start once I'm inside.
When I leave I just walk away. It turns off, locks and alarms once I'm out of range. ( no pun intended)
Works perfectly.
Except when I lend it out.
I have to give my phone to whoever is using the truck.
Or when we're home.
If I leave the phone in the kitchen the truck is unlocked.
Or go camping and my phone goes dead and the truck arms and won't unlock.
Oh well, a little more work to be done.
Rob, sure does sound like some sort of interference.
To hit your car and the garage door it must be severe.
If your systems are older, analog, unsecured code or even "fiscally sensitive" (chinese)
Then  even something as simple as a CB radio can set them off.
Might be time for an upgrade.

Cheers
Fred
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: Jim Stabe on September 16, 2015, 02:14:16 AM
Like I said:

Good ol' key and manual switch always works.
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: BlownMGB-V8 on September 16, 2015, 11:43:48 AM
Here are some thoughts:

A convertible is only ever as secure as your soft top. If it is an expensive one, leaving the car unlocked is often a good idea.

If you leave the top down or install the tonneau, the inside door handle always works.

With poppers and shaved doors, a button in the trunk makes a handy and lockable option. No wireless needed.

A cutout relay for Ignition-on poppers-off is a good safety feature when using wireless.

Jim
Title: Re: Splain it to me...
Post by: rficalora on September 17, 2015, 12:11:59 AM
QuoteLike I said:

Good ol' key and manual switch always works.

I've shaved the locks & exterior door handles, so that's not an option.

It's a two button remote, but can control 4 or 5 functions.  Left button, right button, hold left or right for a few seconds, & I think hold both for a few seconds... I'm going to switch the driver door selonoid from the button it's on to one of the other ones & see if the problem goes away.  No rush though, the weather is way too nice to mess with it right now.