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Title: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: lars49 on March 11, 2013, 07:26:40 PM
I was wondering how many folks would be interested in trying out the Pikes Peak International Speedway?

I dont't know how much it would cost at this point.  I can get a rough estimate I could figure out a pro-rated cost and then see if you would participate at that cost.  I looked into this once before and there are indemnity bond requirements as well as track rental

Link to their site  http://www.ppir.com/
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options
Post by: BlownMGB-V8 on March 11, 2013, 08:02:17 PM
I'd be more interested in driving to the top pf Pike's Peak.

Jim
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options
Post by: Moderator on March 11, 2013, 10:28:12 PM
I've visited Pikes Peak International as a spectator, and also the other two local road courses. Pike's Peak Intl is certainly most convenient to Colorado Springs, but it's least interesting from a driver's perspective.  At least for the sake of comparison, it might be interesting to consider High Plains Raceway (http://www.highplainsraceway.com/) and Pueblo Motorsports Park (http://www.pueblomotorsportspark.us/).

Pikes Peak Intl is just an oval with a couple turns added. Good for spectators.
(http://www.britishracecar.com/AndyAntipas-Titan-Mk6/AndyAntipas-Titan-Mk6-AA.jpg)

HPR is favorite with local vintage racers and car clubs because it offers lots of elevation change, but it's located out beyond the middle of nowhere. There are no trees within miles, and it's very hard for spectators to see any racing action at all.
BobRowley-Lola-T70-AE.jpg

Pueblo Motorsports Park seems like a nice compromise to me. It's an older racetrack. It's located inside the city of Pueblo.
(http://www.britishracecar.com/p-Our-Editors-MGBGTV8.jpg)
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options
Post by: lars49 on March 12, 2013, 01:36:50 PM
JIm,

The run up PP is already in the works.  

Curtis

I've looked a Pueblo and IIRC they require an SCCA or similar license
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options
Post by: Jim Stabe on March 12, 2013, 03:34:11 PM
What sort of safety equipment requirements are there? Roll bar?
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options
Post by: lars49 on March 12, 2013, 05:17:19 PM
Well, I just checked with the PPIR and they have changed their rules so that you have to have an SCCA racing license or equivalent to use the track/road course or attend one of their driving schools..
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options
Post by: 302V8 on March 12, 2013, 06:13:31 PM
Hi Larry,

What dates roughly are you looking at next year?

Thank you
Pete
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options
Post by: lars49 on March 12, 2013, 06:27:01 PM
British V8 2014
Location: Colorado Springs
Dates: June 15 - June 18

I've got mostly set in mud commitments on hotel costs and a group rate discount on the Pikes Peak toll road.

Other diversions - Penrose Carriage Museum; Golden Bee - an authentic British Pub that was dismantled and re-assembled at the Broadmoor; visitation at the Air Force academy

Hopefully a wild west evening meal and entertainment at the Flying W ranch dependent upon if they are up and running again after the fire.

I'm planning a run through the mountains with lunch in Bailey CO.   Planned route Colo Spgs - Woodland Park - Deckers - Pine - Bailey - Jefferson - Florissant - Woodland Park - Colo Spgs.  About 180 miles and 4-1/2 hours

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Oh - I almost forgot there is a Hooters for Rick just up the street from the hotel!
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: 302V8 on March 12, 2013, 08:04:51 PM
Sounds great Larry!
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: lawnvett on March 12, 2013, 08:46:46 PM
Ditto what Pete said, looks like it will be a great event!
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: Citron on March 12, 2013, 09:43:44 PM
Never been that far west.  Really looking forward to it.

Steve
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: britcars on March 14, 2013, 07:28:16 PM
Larry quoted:
"Oh - I almost forgot there is a Hooters for Rick just up the street from the hotel!"
Here's a photo that I took a few days ago of a Hooters in Florida.  Don't know if Rick's been there or not.  His name or photo wasn't on a plaque anywhere on the wall.  :~)
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Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: lars49 on March 14, 2013, 08:28:04 PM
One other thing to consider.  Clive Cussler's museum is open on Monday and Tuesday 'til 7PM

It is in Arvada, which is about a 1-1/2 hour drive north on I-25 etc.
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: mowog1 on March 14, 2013, 09:27:01 PM
Phil....I've been there....they usually welcome me in this manner:

hootersmanoftheyear.jpg
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: Winston on March 15, 2013, 12:51:52 PM
15 months to turn this:
LatestSpitfire2.jpg

Back into this:
FirstSpitfire.jpg

This meet looks like it'll be a blast!
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: britcars on March 16, 2013, 06:59:56 PM
Good one Rick.  Must be a heavy burden to be so well loved and famous!

I took that photo a week ago near Tampa.  Left there two days ago when the temp. was in the mid-seventies and now am in Dawson Creek, northern British Columbia.  Over a foot of snow since we arrived and the temp. was -18*C last night.  Awful shock to this old body....

Had a long chat with the lone security guy at the Fort St. John Airport while waiting for my son to pick us up during a heavy snowstorm.  Found out he's the owner of a 1960 Prefect, a Hillman Minx and a 1980 MGB that he bought new.  Couldn't convince him that they all needed more power.
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: MrNick on March 19, 2013, 05:36:54 PM
Winston, I'm right along there with you. The engine is sitting in the bay, but nothing is hooked up and I'm missing a ton of parts.

I even live in Colorado Springs, so extra pressure to make it!
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: mgbv81970 on March 22, 2013, 02:06:38 PM
If a trip to the Cussler Museum in Arvada is made, I'm sure the gents working at Sportscar Craftsmen wouldn't mind a few British hot rods stopping in to have a look around as well.  :)

http://www.sportscarcraftsmen.com/

Scott
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: Jim Stabe on March 22, 2013, 04:53:52 PM
I'm sure they would love being invaded
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: mabie1978 on June 10, 2013, 09:45:54 AM
So next year is out west too? Hmm, I will keep lurking around waiting for it to come back a bit closer so you guys can pick on me again :)
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: mowog1 on June 10, 2013, 11:01:40 PM
Nebraska is not "west".  (grin)

The Rockies define "west".  (grin)

Yoiu are missing half of the fun of you don't make the road trip!
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: Jim Stabe on June 13, 2013, 06:28:06 PM
Wildfires again around Colorado Springs. I hope everyone is OK and it doesn't throw another wrench in the 2014 plans.
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: lars49 on June 14, 2013, 10:04:10 AM
Michelle - Distances are not measured in miles out here but rather in time.   Omaha to Colorado Spings - just a tad bit more than 8 hours.

Regarding the fires - where they are currently pose no threats, we will just have to wait to see what the rest of the summer brings.
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: MGBV8 on June 15, 2013, 09:47:18 AM
Oh heck, what's 8 more hours?  :)
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: Moderator on June 17, 2013, 05:56:35 PM
The Denver Datsun Z club kindly sends me invitations to their driving events. Their latest e-mail gave me an idea... It might be possible for us to rent or borrow the Colorado Highway Patrol's training track for a high speed "autocross" event. I've no idea what it might cost, and I've also got no idea whether we might get it on a weekday. Here's a video which shows the track in use. (Notice that someone has added traffic cone chicanes to break up the straightaways.) The track is located in the foothills west of Denver, about an hour north of Colorado Springs.

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Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: Bill Young on June 17, 2013, 08:19:08 PM
Michele, we'll be back your way in 2015, meanwhile I'm in the same boat as Winston and Nickolas, trying to finish my plastic TD to drive on those beautiful mountain roads.
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Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: 74ls1tr6 on June 19, 2013, 08:30:36 AM
Looks like fun Curtis!
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: lars49 on June 19, 2013, 09:37:00 AM
I've been talking to a shop that has a dynomometer and when I drove by their place a couple of weeks ago there was a sign that the place was for lease - bummer.  I thought they had gone out of business.  I found out this morning that they have relocated so this possiblity is also open.

http://www.revolutionsperformance.com/chevrolet.php#dyno
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: Jim Stabe on June 19, 2013, 09:56:10 AM
What a great track! I hope you can get it. Back in the 60's one of the SCCSCC clubs in southern California rented part of Riverside Raceway for a high speed autocross. We got to use the start/finish straight, turn 9 and part of the main straight, that was so much fun. You could get up approaching 90 mph through turn 9 since there were no cones there. This track looks even better
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: lars49 on June 19, 2013, 01:10:30 PM
Colorado State Patrol Track Info:

http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/StatePatrol-Employment/CBON/1251594590296

Are we a club?
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: Moderator on June 19, 2013, 01:14:24 PM
Probably close enough for their purposes, but I prefer to think of us as a "blunt object". More ambiguous and mysterious...
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: Moderator on June 19, 2013, 02:20:22 PM
QuoteI've been talking to a shop that has a dynomometer...

If you book it, I'll participate!
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: 74ls1tr6 on June 19, 2013, 06:32:06 PM
I will 2'nd the dyno!
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: lars49 on June 24, 2013, 01:03:30 PM
I got the lunch stop nailed down for the mountain road tour.  I talked to them today, and they are really accomodating folks.  I will be making the run to clock the miles and approximate times

http://www.hogheavenbar-b-que.com/home.htm
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: lars49 on June 27, 2013, 01:58:55 PM
I am planning a visit to the Penrose Carriage Museum.  The news today is that there are expanding with a new building featuring artifacts and memorabilia from the history of the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb, including the first motorized vehicle to climb the mountain.

They are breaking ground for it today and it will be completed by the time we roll into town next year.  

The full story is here:  http://gazette.com/new-museum-announced-to-commemorate-history-of-pikes-peak-hill-climb/article/1502851
Title: Re: British V8 2014 - Venue Options & Map
Post by: Moderator on July 24, 2013, 02:11:58 PM
It's about two hours north of Colorado Springs, so I'll suggest this as a side-trip for people who can come to Colorado a day or two early:

The Dougherty Museum in Longmont Colorado has an outstanding collection of early American automobiles. They're very well displayed, an excellent 36-page catalog is provided with the cost of admission, and the cost of admission is only $5 for a season pass!

The Dougherty Museum is only open Friday thru Sunday.

Here's a list of the cars in their collection:

1. 1902 Mobile Steamer (steam powered)
2. 1903 Cadillac - Rear Entrance Tonneau
3. 1908 Silent Waverly Stanhope (electric powered)
4. 1908 Cadillac - Model T
5. 1909 International Auto Wagon
6. 1910 Cadillac - Model 30
7. 1909 R.E.O. - Model D with Detachable Rear Tonneau
8. 1914 Metz - Model 22
9. 1915 Stanley Steamer - 12 Passenger Mountain Wagon (steam powered)
10. 1912 E.M.F.
11. 1909 Fuller - Model B (on remarkably skinny, very large diameter, slick tires)
12. 1905 Stevens-Duryea - Model R
13. 1910 Ford - Model T
14. 1908 Packard - Model 30
15. 1910 Lozier - Briarcliff  
(Note: if this Lozier sportscar were the only car you saw on your visit, the admission price would still be a bargain!)
16. 1912 Case - Model 40 (a personal favorite of mine)
17. 1913 Ford - Model T
18. 1915 Ford - Model T (equipped with nifty period-accessory coil spring front suspension)
19. 1914 Stanley Steamer - 10hp (steam powered)
20. 1919 Locomobile (steam powered)
21. 1924 Rolls Royce - Silver Ghost  (note: this is a "Springfield" Rolls Royce. It was built in Massachusetts!)
22. 1918 Cadillac - Model 57
23. 1917 Studebaker
24. 1916 Franklin - Series 8
25. 1913 Lozier - Type 72 Riverside (imagine... two Loziers in one place!)
26. 1916 Packard - Twin Six
27. 1916 Stutz - Bulldog Special
28. 1920 Pierce Arrow
29. 1937 Lincoln Zephyr - V12
30. 1924 Buick
31. 1928 Studebaker
32. 1917 Studebaker - Model 40
33. 190? Detroit Electric - Coupe Model 97 (electric powered)
34. 1929 Ford Model A - Roadster
35. 1929 Ford Model A - Sedan

These cars are the real deal: only four of the cars in this collection have been restored since Ray Dougherty took possession of them. Dougherty procured most of the cars locally - starting in 1940 and continuing through the 1960s. Signs next to the cars tell you a little bit of each car's particular history (e.g. which local businessman bought the car, what he paid for it, what he used if for, etc.) The museum also has collections of farming/construction machinery and of musical instruments, including all sorts of player pianos... which the staff will demonstrate for you!




If you DO come up to Longmont to see the Dougherty Museum, you might also want to swing over to Gunbarrel (at the northern edge of Boulder, ~20 minutes to the SW) to see the Shelby American Collection. In addition to Shelby Mustangs (snore!) and Cobras, the Shelby American Collection displays some excellent racecars. The display varies from time to time. Last time I was there, I particularly enjoyed studying a GT40 MkIV and a Lola T70. (I don't know what a Lola has to do with Shelby... but it was there.) I'm sorry to report that Omni GLH enthusiasts will probably be disappointed. Read all about the Shelby American Collection here: http://shelbyamericancollection.org/