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General Category => Engine, Transmission, & Rear Axle assy. => Topic started by: jbarila on June 05, 2008, 02:32:03 PM

Title: Ford 302 short water pump pulleys
Post by: jbarila on June 05, 2008, 02:32:03 PM
I would like to use a Ford racing short water pump for more clearance. What has the group used for pulleys?
I emailed Pete Mantell and he is looking for a price from his machine shop to fab some. I think the only problem will be finding a short (not deep dish) water pump pulley. The crank pulley can always be shimmed and alternators are easy to align.
Any suggestions from the group?
Thanks,
JB
Title: Re: Ford 302 short water pump pulleys
Post by: rficalora on June 06, 2008, 11:10:56 AM
Hi John,

I'm using the Vintage Air Front Runner set up, but before I decided to go with that, I got a set of brackets & pulleys from a 302 T-Bird.  (I actually still have the brackets, pulleys & timing cover.  If you're interested in them, let me know & I'll shoot you some pics.)

Rob
Title: Re: Ford 302 short water pump pulleys
Post by: ex-tyke on June 06, 2008, 07:52:21 PM
John,
      Assuming you are going to use a "V"-belt drive in lieu of serpentine with the E351S Ford pump, pulleys are available at your local junk yard from 70's and 80's pickups, t-birds, etc . If your engine is a late model (4-bolt crank) 302, the crank pulley is 4-bolt (2-3/8" pilot) and the belt centreline is about 1"ahead of the harmonic balancer mounting surface. If you can't find a single sheave pulley get a 2 groove crank pulley and then the larger sheave can be lathed off  - this will leave a  6-3/4" dia crank pulley – ( it was designed to run a ½" belt and if you use a 7/16" belt, the effective diameter is really about 6-1/4. The water pump pulley has a 1" belt centreline offset to the rear and effectively lines up with the crank pulley. - it is about 5-7/8" diameter.
If this is your direction I can try to post a pic of a couple of pulleys.
Title: Re: Ford 302 short water pump pulleys
Post by: jbarila on June 09, 2008, 08:15:30 AM
Graham,
I like your approach.I have a later model 4 bolt crank. Would you please post the pictures?
Thanks,
JB
Title: Re: Ford 302 short water pump pulleys
Post by: ex-tyke on June 09, 2008, 05:09:16 PM
John,
       Hope these help? First shot shows crank pulley and WP pulley relationship. Second shot is of a 2-groove Ford pulley prior to removing the larger dia sheave.
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Title: Re: Ford 302 short water pump pulleys
Post by: ex-tyke on June 09, 2008, 05:14:50 PM
I'll throw in an additional pic of the WP pulley - if I remember correctly, the E351S pump has a larger pilot so reaming/drilling of the pulley pilot may be required - not a big deal!
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Title: Re: Ford 302 short water pump pulleys
Post by: jbarila on June 10, 2008, 08:11:25 AM
Thanks Graham!
The pics will really help. When I finish I will post my results.
JB