Ha! Made you look!
My question is: has anyone here actually seen a Super Snipe in North America? Anyone seen a Humber at all? Did these car's ever get hot rodded? I'm kinda curious to know more about these stepsisters of the Sunbeams.
Apparently they only got inline-6 engines (4-litre) from the factory.
Everything I know about them, I read here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humber_Super_Snipe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humber_Super_Snipe)
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That's about the most american looking british car I've ever seen. If they did make it to the US, I'd be surprised if at least some weren't hot rodded.
Curtis, i just did a google search & found a few in the US... check this link... there's a reference to one. It's from 2004, but it was for sale at the time & has an email address for the shop. They may have some info for you. Apparently the show was at White Rock lake which is really close to where my folks live up by Dallas.
http://www.captainjakes.com/abcd2004/
Guy I work with had a Super Snipe. Sold it a couple of years back. Kids got in the way of him being able to look after it. Never saw it but apparently stock-condition. AFAIK, it stayed in the Vancouver area.
Honey, I shrunk the Checker!
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Humber, like Sunbeam, Hillman and Singer were part of the Rootes group of companies. I understand that about the time that the Sunbeam Tiger was introduced with its Ford V8 engine that same engine was dropped into a couple of Super Snipes for members of the Rootes family to use.
I have no idea if any of these cars still exist.
Quotethat same engine was dropped into a couple of Super Snipes for members of the Rootes family
Cool! That sure would be a great topic for a British V8 article.
The V8 Super Snipes and Imperials still mostly exist - about eight of them IIRC. They used Chrysler V8s, initially a 5.1 litre, then downsized to a 4.5 litre. The straight-six was only a 3-litre, but it didn't have the thin-wall casting of the V8, so it was even heavier than the all-iron 5.1 litre V8. The Snipe - and its Imperial sister - were tough cars, but they rusted like hell and, when on the road, handled badly (very skinny tyres, masses of understeer, etc).
So now you're trying to get us to go on a "Snipe Hunt" Curtis? (for those who don't understand this term http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipe_hunt)
I've never seen a Humbler in the US but some must have been brought over at one time or another. Perhaps up north in Canada more likely.
There was a super snipe for sale near wilkboro,NC back in the 80's. I bought the Nash Metropolitan beside it. It was a fairyly interesting car but badly rusted. It is not there now.
Steve
I remember some Super Snipes as a child, there were some that apparently were privately imported in the Phila area.
I saw a group of 3 Humbers for sale as parts cars in Denver around 1993. Unfortunately it appeared that all three were not enough to make one decent car. I understand that they eventually ended up in CA.
The last Humber Supe Snipe I saw was at a car show in NJ two years ago. It was a mostly original car (original black paint and red leather interior) in decent condition.
It's off-topic, but I passed a very nice Imp in traffic the other day. It had a beautiful paint job (dark crimson with metal flake) and its badges were all removed. I don't recall ever seeing one on a road before.
We have one that shows up at the KC All British show every year, light blue and very clean restoration. I found one other in a salvage yard about 10 years ago, I'm sure it's long crushed by now.
The guy that sits next to me at work has a '47 Humber snipe.
They're not very common, but they can be found in the US.
I've owned 4 over the years, and only 1 was a UK import, the rest were US market cars. Any Sunbeam/Hillman dealer could order them, but they usually were special order, rather than something to put on the lot. In 1961 a new Super Snipe cost as much as a new Cadillac. The first one I owned is now in the Museum of British Transport in Ohio, put there by the next owner.
Biggest problem with restoring a Humber is that it was a high end coachbuilt car. Wool carpets, most had Connolly leather seats, loads of burl walnut trim, and most of the body is welded and lead-loaded. Everything is expensive. My current car has a few modifications, mostly for practical and safety reasons, but still has it's original 3 liter engine. Though I have to admit, come the day that the engine needs rebuilding, a swap to a more modern inline 6 is very likely.
Jon Arzt
Omaha, NE
Here is one for sale in Sacramento. Found this on Craigslist.
http://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/2091332457.html
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Well, you guys certainly have me very interested to see one in person!
Hey Curtis,
Three of them for sale right now on EBAY.
Yep three!
And oh my god one is a wagon.
And they are cheap.
Too far away for me but maybe someone else?
Just ugly enough too be oh so cool.
Cheers
Fred
a mate ran a petrol station as a young fella i still remember a humber coming in for fuel i went out keen as mustard to fuel it up then walked oround and around back and foward looking for the filler cap until the driver laughed got out of the humber and procedded to unscrew the tail liht reflector ? made me look silly ??????
That is cool i am going EBAY to buy it.
I just discovered this thread today.
Samuelson, were you the guy who bid $500 on the Super Snipe wagon in Northridge (California) this weekend? I won the bid on the 1959 and the seller made me a combination deal on both it and the 1964 wagon. Now that I have two Super Snipe wagons, I have to figure out which one to put in running condition and which one to use for parts. At this point, the 1959 looks the most likely to run. The engine on the 1964 is frozen.
I've owned a 1962 Triumph TR4 since 1967, but this is my first Rootes car. I'm not sure exactly what I've gotten myself into, but it should be interesting! :-)
Alan
Hi Guys,
When i joined this forum because of the title i just assumed it was predominately English based and now realise it is more American (the members i mean).
Did you guys have the Humber Hawk as well in the states? Basicaly the poor mans version of the Super Snipe, came with a 4-pot 2.3 litre. My mate has got a couple of them, he says they look like a smaller version of a 55 chevy. He is in the throws of converting his one to a Ford 302 with AOD at the moment, should be out and about this May if all goes well.
Here are a couple of pics of it in it's standard form at one of the shows last season.
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Cheers.
Russ.
hiya, saw this at a swap meet in essex this weekend...... picture is poor , I only had my mobile!
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@ UK Russ 1960 OLDS:
You live near where I grew up. There is a chap down in St Neots who has a modded Humber Sceptre, very nice indeed. He also did a Minx for his wife when they got married.
If you are wondering where the Aussie Charger went that used to rattle all the windows through the Alconbury's, I took brought it with me to the US, along with my MkIV Vogue estate.
@ everyone:
I haven't seen any Super Snipes here yet but there has been an Imperial or 2. I believe they were both sold here new but probably in limited numbers. Some were also brough over as dimplomatic cars for the various UK consulate offices.
Hi James,
Pretty sure we are talking about Ollie and Amy, if so they now live in the next village to me.
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Guess that would be the car you meant.
Cheers.
Russ.
@ Russ,
Yes that's them. I saw they had moved, and built a new shop in the garden. Give them my regards next time you see them.
Love that Sceptre, Fizzle Fry (doing the Minx S2000 conversion) really needs to take a look at that car. Everything about it is right.
Hi James,
Sorry the pics have gone, i will try and reload them on photobucket and link them accross.
I have quite a few pics of Olly's Humber Sceptre. He blew the engine up a few months ago so has now changed it to a 2.0 Ford zetec and running it on throttle bodies.
Cheers.
Russ.
Not a Humber but a Rootes Group product that has definitely been hot rodded and is for sale on fleabay.
This rather tasty '53 Hillman has a 350 Chevy and a 4 speed lurking beneath that stock-looking body.
Click: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130703056248+&viewitem=#v4-42
New here and new to European cars, always owned and restored mopars. But I'm inheriting a really cool car, a Humber Super Snipe. I love the look of this car and I've only seen it twice but should be bringing it to the house soon. I'm in Sacramento and I THINK it might be the car that was posted further up the page. Basically I'm curious about the inline six and if you can Berge them up to kick out some horsepower or if a V8 swap to a Chrysler V8 is the way to go? Also wider tires?