First, apologies to Roverman for not getting a chance to preview these before I posted them but they came out so cool looking I didn't think you'd mind sharing.
These are a couple versions of a JH concept form the inspired mind of Art Gertz. I wasn't really sure about what this would look like when he gave me the list of modifications but it actually all went together. To be fair, Art wanted this to be a black car but lighter colors are easier to edit (you can see the contours, part lines, etc.) so I kind of took the easy road with the yellow car.
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Might be kind of fun to see if you can spot all of the edits and the cars they came from. Including modifications or changes to the JH body, there should be 10 alterations. Have fun.
I hate these games. I can always get to 7 out of 10 "Spot the Differences" then start tearing my hair out. Here goes:
1. side mirrors changed
2. side lights removed
3. fender vent added (Cobra?)
4. grille surround (68 Corvette?)
5. headlights (Mercedes?)
6. wheels (Halibrand?)
7 top (Porsche 914?)
8. front spoiler
9. front end reshaped for headlights
10. chrome strip at rocker panel removed
Nice concept and I wish I had your P/S skills. I've always had a hankering for a Jensen GT (no Healey by then). Went to look at a 20k mile car near me a number of years ago. What a rotbox.
Wow Rick! You're close.
A hint (or two). Headlights were changed but not Mercedes. Porsche 914 Targa top was correct. Side mirrors were changed but from what car? Grille surround is correct. Wheels are correct as was the fender vent (good eye), front spoiler, and removal of the side lights. All of the parts changes (except the headlights) came from the cars of basically the same late 60s-early 70s time frame.
The other changes are more subtle but have a lot to do with the look of the car. Oddly, the shot of the car I started from didn't have the chrome trim strip at the rocker so you lose a point for that one.
Tell me you're not using Lamborhini Miura headlights:
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Here's the list of answers.
1. Dropped the body down about 3-4" (I'm estimating here) to give the JH a better stance
2. Flared the fenders (it's subtle, but there) to accommodate more wheel/tire combinations
3. Deleted the side markers
4. Deleted the front and rear bumpers
5. Reshaped the front valance. On a practical level, this may be the most technical part of the idea.
6. Front bumper is from late 60s Corvette with the wrap around ends bobbed to blend with the JH width.
7. Headlamps are from recent Porsche Spyder. I tried to render these in a way that the original headlamp surround might be retained (but modified).
8. Wheels are Team III 'Hallibrands'
9. Side vent is from a Cobra
10. Door mirror and door handle are both from a late 60s - early 70s Toyota Celica
11. Front spoiler is from early 70s Mustang Mach I
12. Top and sail panels are from Porsche 914 Targa
All of the parts with the exception of the headlamps are from cars of the same era as the JH. From that perspective, this is a concept that I could see someone of the same period executing.
I like Art's idea here. Reminds me of the Jensen Coupes but without the fastback. Would have been a nice model. I also like Rick's idea of the Miura headlamps (simply because they're from roughly the same period) but think they might be a bit difficult to source.
Close" David but not my "vision" just yet. I need to send you some art-work(pun). Team III "AC" wheels will have "nut covers", tires need 40 aspect rati,(shorter sidewalls. Fifties "Speedster" on healight covers.Corvette/XJS "sails/flying butress", for rear window.Good Work, roverman.
Art,
No problem to add the nut covers on the wheels, lower the tire aspect ratio, or swap out the headlights for earlier models. Do you want to keep the chrome trim rings for the head lights? On the XJS sail panel, do you want it to extend all of the way to the end of the deck lid (as per the original)?
I'll take acre of the edits this evening.
DT
Dave, Yes chrome ring on headlight covers, just like early speedster.JH buckets are f-glass, will make the mod. easier. End the "sail" at high point of hump, over rear wheel wells, or few inches beyond, for "balance".914 "bridge" is too angular to blend with curvy body, needs conours like XJS. Let's loose the mirrors. Mabie mount short motorcycle mirror, up high in chrome support for wing window,(like some MGB's use). Change color to red ? 67-72 Vette bumpers ? The're split and "Z" shaped. On fender vent, maybe Z28 right "after" design, that had gilles ? Did you move the front wheels forward 5" ? Thanks, roverman.(Gertz)
Looking forward to seeing Art's "vision". The JH just never caught on with Healey guys, despite the fact it did well in SCCA production racing. The JH was just a totally bland response to the "hairy brute" of the Healey 3000. Frankly, the Healey died in 1967. Anything thereafter was a hollow echo.
Art,
Have the new headlights, moved the wheels forward, changed the profile on the tires, located a good shot of the early 'Vette bumper, deleted the Celica mirror (although I thought it looked period appropriate) and have a vent shot from an '80 Z28 (could find no examples of anything earlier). Need a little direction on the XJS sail panel though. Do you mean to retain the black, forward part of the panel as on the Jaguar? Or do you want it to all be body color?
David
Here's the latest rendition. New bumper treatment (early 'Vette), older style Porsche Speedster headlights. lower profile tires, added the lug covers to the Team III wheels, changed the fender vent/louvre to more one that could be opened or closed, 'moved' the front wheels forward about 5" (it's a relative kind of measurement) added the Costello grille, deleted the side mirror, added original Jensen turn lamps, changed Targa top to something more along the lines of a Jaguar XJS...and 'painted' it red (at Art's request). I like the changes. The lines flow better and the grille work looks more organic. Hope you like it.
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For all that "area" behind the front wheels, I'm thinkin Gullwing Mercedes fender vents.Any aerodynamicist out there ? I want to close-off the front,grille area,aka 914, and run a rear mount radiator, in the flat/vertical "Kamm-back" area.My plan is to run the car at Antique Drags-Barona, on Oct. 9th, 2011. Just baseline performance testing. Come on out. Cheers, roverman.
Re: gull wing vents. As per the original 1957 version or the ones found on the new Mercedes gull wing offering?
Two versions, one with the new style louvre and one with the old style. Both have the grille work blanked out.
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Art asked me to do a 3/4 rear view that would illustrate a few of the features he's considering - rear mounted radiator, re-shaped tail lights, fender flairs, 914-style rear window, deleted chrome rear trim, a 70ish rear wing (not many of those around (thank goodness for Pontiac on that one) and, as Healey Rick would say, "twice pipes. This is just the draft version so I'm sure Art has changes coming my way but, overall, it looks like it means business.
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The wing was a late addition so it didn't make an appearance on the front view rendering.
Here's the completed rendering. I made some subtle changes to the rear (extended the egg crate grill, recessed the tail lamps, moved the exhaust) and then built the composite so you could get a more complete view of the car.
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Looking forward to seeing Art's vision 'in the flesh'.
Good job David, you demonstrate a genuine photoshop talent. My quest is that this Hemi Healey, will have the performance and handling to match the looks. This is way more exciting to me, than just one more gen III hemi 67' cuda. Meanwhile, back in the real world, I'll be running the "standard" at the Antique Drags, at Barona Raceway on Oct. 9th. If all goes well, after that some SCCA Solo II activity. I last dragged in 1973( O.C.I.R.) and slalomed in 1981(Los Alamitos). Much to learn. Thanks, roverman.
I can't wait to see this beast on the road. Keep me posted as you make progress. And, thanks for letting me be a part of it all. Regards.
I'm waiting for quote on (4) Huffaker "E Prod" glass fenders, allowing approx 5"more track width. These cars have 49% weight on front,(a good thing). We'll see what the hemi does to that ! Obviously, I'll be jockeying for weight balance. Anyone have a parachute/lol.? Cheers, roverman.
Art,
Did I read somewhere that you're going to use a new 6.1 SRT8 Hemi in the JH? Forget the 'chute, you'll need a G-suit for the acceleration. I have a 300C SRT8 and that 4200 lb. car flies with that motor. Can't imagine what it would be like in the JH. If you need any measurements, let me know.
Rick buddy, why bother it's not a "real" Healey ,lol. "If" I do this right, car should weigh about 2,400. I want about 500 hp...out-back.I've been on the "forabodiesonly" site, but my ideas are a little too "out-there", for mainstream mopar. Things like Edelbrock dual quad/dual plane with (2) Thermoquads converted to tbi's, etc. My w.a.g. is 170 mph+, with closed nose, on the car. Huffaker fenders should add approx 5" more track, much needed. Trans is turbo Supra 5 speed,(direct bolt), to hemi. RX7 diff and suspension clip. Belly pan and "maybe" diffusers leading to rear radiator/grille, may allow no wing necessary. Many more questions than answers, but it is exciting and fresh. Thanks, roverman.
David,
Great job. That is the best looking Jensen Healey I have ever seen!
Thanks Carl but the credit really goes to the Art's imagination. He's the one who came up with the idea, I merely reduced it to a rendering.
It's not too hard to improve the looks of a JH. Being the "Edsels" of British cars, nobody bothers, unlike MGB,s, Triumphs, etc. I must because of the overall performance, I'm going for. At 170+ mph potential, the car will definately need aero and suspension upgrades. Cheers, roverman.
Art,
I just popped a disc in the mail with the PhotoShop files for you. Keep me posted. I'm happy to make "adjustments" to the rendering if you'd like. Just let me know.
DT
Good ! "If" i can get the head room, I may lay that windshield back(bolts on). Huffaker fenders will alter the look,(buffed). I'm considering a genuine "Hemi Shaker" scoop, perhaps backwards. Car will be black with silver accents. Thanks, roverman.
Sharp lookin car! can't wait to see pics of the real thing!
Thanks Chris, I consider that a genuine compliment from a "real" Healey owner. I think the word is synergism ? In other words, in this case, the photoshop talent of David T. and my wild and crazy ideas(vision). The real test is living up to the dream. To be continued, roverman.
That is a great rendering! I'm sure it will be a awesome car! I was stumbling across the internet and found a picture that looked very familiar and can't help but think it was influencial on the design of the Jensen. I'm sure the "The Avengers" was even bigger in the UK than it was in the States.
It's influenced me to order some new spring perches for the back of my Jensen GT so shorter normal springs can be installed to replace the pigtails without cutting them. This GT only has 6800 miles so don't want to change anything too much but lowering it can only be good! I'm afraid the engine will remain stock for the same reason. It's very strange to work on this car because the only issue is surface rust on the bits that weren't fully painted. All of the rubber parts are like new. The car was so rust proofed from the factory that it's surprising that more didn't survive. It has a bunch more than the Jensen Healey that I used to have.
Bill
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Bill, Thanks for the pic's. Is that a full custom JH done-up for the "Avengers" ? It looks quite different from the (production) models. I do not remember it. Wow, 1 got by me. I'm almost suprised we haven't seen a JHiccup GT,(Jensenmino). Cheers, roverman.
Sorry, forgot to mention it was a AC428! There is a bunch of information on the internet about it. I'd never seen one or even heard of one before. Sure looks like a JH to me. I haven't started the motor in my GT and almost hoping it blows up so I can put something with a little more power in it! ( not really )
Bill
I love your Jensen GT. Back in the 1980s I bought one in a bad state and after adding a wife followed by a baby I later sold it unfinished.
What are the shut lines round the bonnet like? On mine it was impossible to adjust it to line up with the wings properly.
Thanks David,
I consider myself very lucky to have found a GT in such great shape after so many years. Other than surface rust on mechanical components and a lot of dirt outside the car is amazing! On this car the bonnet fits really good but as far as I can tell it is just like it left the factory with no crashes or body rot. With the way it is built I can't imagine trying to start from scratch lining up the body parts after time and rust has attacked it. The bonnet is truly a massive piece of sheetmetal!
Does anyone know if the AC428 was an influence on the design of the Jensen Healey? It's hard not to notice the similarity.
I realize this question is probably better posed at JHPS website but I can't help but think that it might be of interest on this website and frankly I have more cars with V8's in them then with 4 cylinders!
Cheers,
Bill
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Is it possible Jensen reps were shopping the Italian design studios(over the shoulder), so to speak and spied such a design ? As we know the Intercepter was designed there and somewhat similar in spec to the AC 428. This has little to compare with a current JH project,code named AC 6.1. Cheers, roverman.
Hey Roverman,
Any update on the JH Special?
I've been looking at all the JH mods out there and been trying some of my own. I've even thought about trying a prototype tribute of one I saw in an old issue of the JHPS newletter
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My 74 JH, 217 HP at the wheels 2.2 L lotus twin cam. this would have made the old Healey guys sit up and take notice!!
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Cheers,
Dan
Hi Dan, nice little-known insider info ! Nothing real exciting to report. I'm still gathering parts and services for "Jensen Jackal", listed in this forum. Had the 340" Mopar V8 bored, steel crank, aluminum "Eddy" heads. Got the correct bell housing to direct bolt to Turbo Supra 5 speed. Rabbit steel flares, all around and a glass hood. Weight maybe 2,300 ? Cheers, Art.