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General Category => MG Sports Cars => Topic started by: Rolly77MGB on July 02, 2011, 02:34:29 PM

Title: 6" frame stretch??
Post by: Rolly77MGB on July 02, 2011, 02:34:29 PM
Looking at the Ford 5.0/302 installations got me to wondering (which along with thinking is dangerous for me) what would the ramifications of a 6" frame extension?  I'm thinking of just between the two adjacent bolt holes that secure the front suspension to the frame.  This would provide sufficient room for the engine and transmission with fewer (if any) modifications to the firewall and transmission tunnel. I do not possess the equipment or skills to do this myself so I would have to pay a competent welder/fabricator to do the work.  My main concern is handling.  Any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: 6" frame stretch??
Post by: Preform Resources on July 02, 2011, 03:13:17 PM
Well it would be a nightmare scenario stretching the fenders, hood,reshaping the inner fender panels And making them look good as well.
Dave Craddock
Title: Re: 6" frame stretch??
Post by: britcars on July 02, 2011, 06:01:35 PM
Have a look at Dale Knapke's TR6 with a 2" stretch.................

http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?3,18101,page=1
Title: Re: 6" frame stretch??
Post by: Rolly77MGB on July 02, 2011, 07:54:57 PM
Thanks for the responses.  Dale - my idea was to cut the front sheetmetal aft of the wheel wells and move them forward with the rest of the front end.  It appears to me that the slope in the sheetmetal is linear which would make the fenders rather easy to fill in.  The hood would be another matter altogether...Phil - nice job Dale is doing and rather quickly at that!  I'm just getting started on my project; in fact, I'm still in the tear apart stage.
Title: 6" frame stretch??
Post by: Rolly77MGB on July 03, 2011, 08:03:53 PM
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Title: Re: 6" frame stretch??
Post by: Bill Young on July 04, 2011, 12:27:50 AM
Rolly, I think you'd be in for much more problems than you'd have just trimming the firewall and crossmember as most Ford V8 swaps do. Stretching the wheel base would throw off the ackerman for one and trying to fix that would most likely result in a lot of bump steer. You'd move from one problem in the handling to another. Stick with a proven combination and you'll know what to expect from the performance and handling.  You'd need to keep those bolt holes in the original spacing relationship as that's where the front suspension bolts on to the chassis, so you'd have to lengthen the frame behind that area which would also include lengthing the inner fenders as they form a good part of the front chassis strength.
Since you wouldn't be doing the fabrication yourself I'd think it could get very expensive to do that sort of mod short of building a tube subframe structure to reinforce that area much like Dale did.
Title: Re: 6" frame stretch??
Post by: djw090 on July 04, 2011, 05:33:42 AM
Fram stretch is what MG should have done for the MGC
Title: Re: 6" frame stretch??
Post by: Moderator on July 05, 2011, 11:49:06 AM
MGC? Would have been a huge success as designed, except with a small block Ford instead of that heavy six!
Title: Re: 6" frame stretch??
Post by: ex-tyke on July 05, 2011, 12:17:36 PM
QuoteMGC? Would have been a huge success as designed, except with a small block Ford instead of that heavy six!

I like the way you think, Curtis!
Title: Re: 6" frame stretch??
Post by: MGBV8 on July 09, 2011, 08:14:53 AM
Graham,

For once, I must agree.  ;)