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General Category => Triumph Sports Cars => Topic started by: restorem on September 23, 2010, 08:07:03 PM

Title: Stag Engines
Post by: restorem on September 23, 2010, 08:07:03 PM
I am restoring a 73 Stag with no engine.  Looking for direction for easiest conversion.  Looking at Ford 302?  See my intro in new members. Thanks.
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Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: MGBV8 on September 23, 2010, 09:15:31 PM
Stags usually get Rover transplants. Looks like there is plenty of room in there for a Ford 302 or even a Chevy LS engine, if not interested in the Rover 3.5/3.9/4.6 variants.  Will it have a manual or automatic tranny?
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: alana on September 23, 2010, 09:17:26 PM
Rover v8 is fairly common.
v6s too.
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: alana on September 23, 2010, 09:30:07 PM
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/cto/1969843576.html

This might give you ideas.
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: MGBV8 on September 23, 2010, 09:36:26 PM
More ideas:

http://www.britishv8.org/Photos-Triumph-Conversions.htm
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: restorem on September 24, 2010, 08:02:15 PM
Thanks, Alan for the craigslist link.  Anyone else drop a Chevy 350 in a Stag?
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: BlownMGB-V8 on September 24, 2010, 10:56:09 PM
It's a pretty heavy engine. What is your budget? LS perhaps?

JB
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: restorem on September 25, 2010, 02:12:46 PM
Thanks, BlownMGB-V8
I am restoring this car for a family friend who is a collector.  Budget is always a concideration but not an issue.  We're mostly looking for easiest drop in and maintenance, this car may end up belonging to his son.
Thanks
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: alana on September 25, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
LS is probably a better option.
It's lighter. It's the same size as a BOPR engine - which does fit - and parts are plentiful.
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: restorem on September 25, 2010, 06:25:17 PM
Alana, Thanks for the reply.  I'm kinda new at this, what is LS or BOPR.
Thanks
Bbo
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: alana on September 25, 2010, 07:54:46 PM
LSx are the LS series of engines. The first one (Hence LS-1) came in the C5 Vette and Camaro SS (plus some others).
BOPR is Buick/Oldsmobile/Pontiac/Rover. Its shorthand for all the iterations of the 215 engine that pretty much every British v8 that isn't the Stag has been made from.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_LS_engine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rover_V8_engine
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: BlownMGB-V8 on September 26, 2010, 10:18:22 AM
I'd go with the Rover if you want to stay British, and use one of the newer fuel injected engines for driveability and such, or with the LS series for better power and economy and perhaps longevity. The Rover swap is likely to be the easiest just because that is the most common swap for the Stag so the parts should be available. The LS will have the most wow factor.

JB
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: restorem on September 26, 2010, 05:39:04 PM
Thanks, Blown MGB-V8 and Alana
Jim, when you mention the Rover Swap are you talking about the BOPR 215 engine?  Which engine will offer the more space after installation LS or BOPR?
Thanks.
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: alana on September 26, 2010, 06:17:19 PM
They are the same size to within 1/4 of an inch.
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: alana on September 26, 2010, 06:23:39 PM
http://paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=586
http://www.v8register.net/subpages/v8enginedimensions.htm

The second one is in mm - translates to roughly 30.5w 33.75l 28.25h

In other words they are very close...
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: BlownMGB-V8 on September 27, 2010, 09:22:35 AM
Rover=BOPR.
In fitment the difference is that the parts are available for the BOPR. For the LS you have to make things like engine mounts and headers. Also pay attention to coolant lines, etc.

JB
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: restorem on September 27, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
Thanks, Jim and Alan

I am going to see the owner of this "light at the end of the tunnel" and discuss all of this with him.

How do you find the parts for putting a BPOE in a
stag?
Thanks
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: Sparrow010 on October 01, 2010, 07:27:38 AM
How bout a toyota 1-UZ FE ? It Does fit.
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Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: Moderator on October 01, 2010, 12:39:51 PM
"How do you find the parts for putting a BPOR in a Stag?"

One good place to start is this message board's classified section. A number of Stag specific parts are listed and shown in this recent ad: http://forum.britishv8.org/read.php?11,18897 - check out those sexy Stag-specific stainless steel headers!

You can also post "wanted" ads in the classified section.
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: StagByTriumph on October 09, 2010, 07:48:52 PM
Andy,
That conversion is absolutely gorgeous!  

Now where did you get those camber adjustment brackets?

Glenn
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: StagByTriumph on October 09, 2010, 07:55:31 PM
Bob,

I may be willing to part with my 3.5 EFI Rover complete setup - u-bolt-it-in - engine/computer/headers/mounts/transmission.
If your transmission is an J Type OD I may consider a partial swap but that one is probably an A Type from that Early Stag you have ...

If you are interested, let me know directly to my email address.

Cheers!
Glenn Merrell
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: restorem on October 10, 2010, 07:53:17 PM
Glenn,

I'm very interested.  Whats your email adress?  I'm meeting with the owner this week.
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: Sparrow010 on July 06, 2011, 09:44:06 PM
Thanks Glenn

4 years of work but great to have her back on the road. Is almost like a new car. well worth all the effort.

K MAC CC Adj units from Aussie

http://www.k-mac.com.au/
Title: Re: Stag Engines
Post by: jimttx on August 01, 2011, 11:14:00 PM
I am also working on a 73 Stag with an injected Rover 3.5.  I suggest that you stay with an engine with the distributor in the front.  The engine compartment is challenging.  I recently completed making new motor mounts and am starting to work on some sheetmetal mods to gain needed clearance around the 700R4 transmission.  In my case the aluminum V8 is lighter than the Stag cast iron engine but my transmission is heaver which effectively moves the weight distribution toward the rear.