Quarter- Eliptic, Composite, Mono Leaf Springs

Started by ag1234, June 28, 2023, 09:49:44 PM

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ag1234

Front straight axle with about 400lbs, static corner weight. Urethane bushing at axle end, {compliance}. Spring is inverted for better rising-rate and ro[l-caster gain, as an upper, leading link. Question is, mounting diagonally, to handle lateral loads ? Not likely to exceed 1G lateral. Using metal lower leading link. Anti-roll bar may attach to ether link. Second design is "pickle fork", with roller bearing mounted on real side of axle,( slides up/down in slot).   Thoughts ? Thanks,  Art.


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I think I need a sketch... and some context: What car would you put this under?
1971 MGB GT V8
Buick 215 w/ Rover heads, custom EFI & crank-fired ignition.
Custom front and rear coilover suspensions.

ag1234

First to JB., KISS, not helpful. Why bother ?
  To Curtis, thanks for answering.  No skill to upload sketch, but this is the Rover V16, all aluminum roadster, cept' f-glass body.
   Entire drive train is stress-mounted which makes 1/8" wall aluminum frame, workable. Since aluminum engine girdle direct receives
 . input load from quarted-eliptic monoleaf, loads are acceptable. About 1.5" squash and 2,5"dangle, travel , at wheel, should be
   enough( straight axle).
                                                             Thanks,  Art.

Roverbeam

Front straight axle and leaf springs sounds like pre-war stuff, or a truck. The guys that make "cyclekarts" (HF predator motor, Honda 90 bike tires, homemade chassis...) are big into the pre-war examples for their half-size "replicas". The site is at least a decent repository of example cars/chassis/suspensions that aren't difficult to copy.

I did a composite transverse 1/4 leaf design with lower A-arm for an Auto Union Type C I spent a week deciding whether to build...
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MGBV8

"Question is, mounting diagonally, to handle lateral loads ?"

Do you still plan to use a panhard rod, Art?

Straight axle street rod stuff is before my time.  Maybe something in here may help:

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/quarter-elliptical-spring-questions.993196/\\


I enjoyed this little history lesson on straight axle street rods.

https://www.motortrend.com/how-to/solid-axle-front-suspension-details/
Carl

ag1234

Chad and Carl, Thanks. No panhard bar, Maybe pickle fork/roller bearing(tunable roll center).
                                                                                                 Onward,  Art.