Changing front suspension

[avbates]

Just adjust to preference.  I started with mine on the lowest setting and went from there.  Remember to role it back and fowrds between each adjustment to settle the suspension

[TNV8]

The weather finally broke here in TN it got to 28 and took the car out for a ride and frontend alignment, when I got home it measured 14.5 from the center of the hub to the bottom of the chrome strip. The ride was great it was well worth the time and money.

[britcars]

{Abe,The modifications need to be done on the John Hoyle front suspension. The bump stops need to be cut off and some welding is required. I bought his unit a couple of years ago but haven't installed on my car. It is very robust build and has GAZ adjustable coil-over shocks. I do not know the importer here in the USA but for a while the were available from a business in CA.
Werner}
Gaz shocks and springs are available here.  http://www.coilovershock.com/  Brunton Performance Products in FL.
Phil

[DiDueColpi]

At the chance of inciting  a riot " what's wrong with the Arrmstrong lever shock"?
It's simple, It's rebuild-able, It's tune-able, unsprung weight is reduced and it's precise.
Unless your suspension improvement includes a pivot point change you 're probably going backwards.
So are we doing coil over to be cool or is it a real improvement?

All hail the mighty "B" cam.

Fred

[roverman]

Yes, and even "More British", friction shocks never leak oil.  Good Show Fred !

[Moderator]

So are we doing coil over to be cool or is it a real improvement?

To be cool... but coilovers make ride height adjustment quick, easy, and precise.  IMHO that's worth a lot. Alternative springs for coilovers are relatively cost effective. These coilover shocks come with adjustable valving. (You can buy Armstrongs with adjustable valving too.)  Basically, you're ending up with a suspension that's far easier to tune than stock.

[DiDueColpi]

I absolutely agree with you Curtis.
Was just trying to make a point.
Changing something just because everyone else is. Isn't always the best choice.
If you take the time to educate yourself. And then do what makes sense to you.
You can't go wrong.

Cheers
Fred

[MGBV8]

I have to agree on the ride height adjustment advantage. Must be nice, cause I have had four different sets of coil springs in my stock front end & it's still not quite where I want it.

[BlownMGB-V8]

You can use spacers under the coil springs though, I think we put about a 3/4" spacer under the RM.

In terms of the shock itself, the Armstrong is superior in many ways such as strength of the components, size of pistons, ability to use different weight oils, ease of changing valving and now the availability of remote external adjusters. When used as a component of the suspension such as on the front of the MG it has minimal effect on unsprung weight. But it is more expensive, and is a maintenance item as you must periodically check the oil level.

On the coil-over, the spring is very compact which makes it a highly stressed component. The end bushings are also highly stressed. Coil-overs have other faults as well, but they are a very simple solution when making a custom design. That does not make them a superior solution. Sometimes easy just overrules best practices. Which doesn't make them bad either, but how often do you see them on production cars? That might be a clue.

Jim

[TNV8]

I had to change out my Armstrong shocks because they were leaking from the bushings and also the springs were shot, the car has 135,000 miles on it. Was able to adjust the ride height to 14in and the steering seems to be lighter also and let's not forget about the cool factor....

[TNV8]

Has anyone have a problem with the GAZ shock lower bushing breaking apart? Was under the car and noticed that the rubber ends of the bushing are crumbling and are falling apart when I touch them.

[mstemp]

The Gaz bushings are junk! Use  three sets from Energy bushings. Three because you have to cut one set for the extra width in the centre. At least I think it was the bottom that needed the three. My Moss coil over kit with Gaz shocks lasted all of 300 miles before the bushings were toast. Others will say it's too much to expect a poly bush to hold the weight of a car but that's is how it was designed so it better work in my mind, or else Moss and Gaz have some explaining to do! Nylatron may be a better choice for the bushings but also may be harsher etc.

[TNV8]

Thanks for the info Mike.. Do you happen to remember what ones you ordered?

[mstemp]

Energy 99105g. I have only had the new ones on for a few months, time will tell if they hold up any better. The stock GAZ replacement bushings from Moss looked so poor I never considered installing them.

[TNV8]

Mike how did those new bushings work for you, are they holding out better.? Just getting around to order the ones you did.

[mstemp]

Haven't gone that many miles yet but they are holding up fine so far. Mike Alexander has more miles on his possibly.

[RobertE]

I saw Mike at a show last week. He mentioned running the energy bushings and it seems everything is holding up

What's the ride height range adjustability?  Checked the moss site but didn't see any information regarding it.
Also, any idea on the product # for the gaz shock?

[Scott Costanzo]

Robert,

Not sure of the adjustability on the car but the threaded portion of the shock measures about 3.5". The Moss # is shown on the attached picture. The actual GAZ # appears to be SP8 1129 B14 N09.

I've had these for a couple of years but just haven't had the opportunity to put them on yet.

Scott

[RobertE]

Scott, thank you for the response. Just what I was looking for.

[Scott Costanzo]

You're welcome Robert. One thing I just realized I didn't make clear is that's a Moss Europe #, FYI.

Scott

[Johnsricharde]

Ok, I am in the planning stage of a crazy build. I have a heavy motor going in a 1976 MG Midget. I would like to put a 5 lug hub on the car. Does anyone know where I can find something? Someone said a old mustang. Any help will be great.

[mgb260]

Narrow Mustang II. Check out Welder series.

[TNV8]

just have a quick question anyone use this before and what are your thoughts?

http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=81276

[TNV8]

Anybody?

http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=81276

[mgb260]

I haven't tried them but there have been threads on the Mgexperience board. They give a little too much Neg. camber and wear the inside of the tires. May be alright for autocross but not necessary for the street.