My rendering of the ideal Road & Track Car

Started by B-Fast B-Strong, June 12, 2010, 01:46:08 PM

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B-Fast B-Strong

I know your going to hate this ! I love the whaletails on the 911's so I think I will form a Lexan whaletail . Some black angles and stainless rods to hold it in place SWEET !
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B-Fast B-Strong

If you don't like the clear how about carbon fiber. The dash is carbon fiber and it has a patch of carbon fiber on the rear flairs so carbon fiber whale tail spoiler and front reflectors would look good. Oh I also changed the seats to Carbeau Classic's from the Momo Atlantis seats. I like the classic's but they are a bit on the narrow side and I would like to try them before I would buy some.

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Yes, the more I look at this , the more I like it. Might end up with the car looking like this.

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rficalora

Will, we used to have a saying when I worked at Texas Instruments... "there comes a time in the development of every project when its necessary to shoot the engineers & begin production"

B-Fast B-Strong

I have heard that saying , I grew up in Texas and was an engineer. I love to change things , just an engineers nature I guess. I have all ready started to work on bits just have not decided what the final beast will look like.

Old saying is , If you fail to plan you plan to fail !

rficalora

Yes, but vision without execution is hallucination.

B-Fast B-Strong

Cypress is a pretty area of Houston , some beautiful homes there. I grew up around the Dallas , Ft Worth area and still have some people there. I enjoy restoring parts and making old things new , this is not my first project like this, but I think it will be my last. I just want it to be special and like nothing else. If it takes me year then so be it , I'm not in a big hurry , doing it is half the fun. Other cars I have done they had to be finished in three months or I thought they were not worth doing. I slowed down in my old age. I am even going to take a lot of pictures like a lot of my friends do. I  can hear them give me a hard time now. I always told them you spent so much time taking pictures how did you fine time to finish it. I alway said who wants to see the carnage , I just want to see the finished product. I just looked a resto project and he has over 950 pictures of fixing places on the body, I will tell you now I will not take that many pictures. How did he fine time to work ? Maybe his wife was watching " that's neat what you did there SNAP "

rficalora

I'm just messing with you Will.  Now I know my problem -- I've been hurrying on my project for 4 1/2 yrs.  Should have slowed down & got it done faster!

B-Fast B-Strong

Rob,
I have in the past tried to get things done in a hurry only to find out later that I spent money on things that I could have bought for less. I like to watch Overhauling and I still don't see how they can rebuild a car in a week ! They have to cut corners I would not do on my own car. That is a good example of unlimited funds and man power, we don't have a team of experts and that kind of money.The first thing they do is set down and plan it all out and assign tasks to teams, they know just what , when and how they are going to get it done and I still don't see how they do it.  I have to plan, plan, plan and search for parts at the best price and decide what level I will take it to. I have to know exactly what I am going to do and then do it, if not I will loose interest and not finish it, that's just me. You are different that me, I could never work on a project for 4 1/2 years I would have lost my mind 4 years ago. I envy you in a way.
William

MGBV8

Carl

rficalora

I'll admit, if I'd have thought it was going to take me this long, I probably would have never started... but I'm really glad I did.  It's been a lot of fun & it's very close now.  We have family plans this weekend & next, but I'll be back on it the following weekend!

B-Fast B-Strong

Hi Carl and Rob,
I admit I have persistence but little patience ! I have to admit also that I hate to mess with the style of the beloved Bugeye and I came up with this and it may just please everyone.


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Note the Brooklands Aeroscreen's and Vintage Racing Seats !

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rficalora

Will, I like it, but I liked your other renderings too.  At the end of the day all that should matter is what you like.

B-Fast B-Strong

This is true , I keep finding new things like the the Brooklands Aeroscreens. They are so much nicer than just making some Lexan screens, kind of old school and I think they would look good and maybe not get a hassle from the Po Po . I want it as racy as possible but still be able to drive it around. We have a manufacture of A C Cobra kit cars  near here and I would like her to be able to defend her honor, and with a Duratec engine with over 300 hp  + and her light weight should make her hold her own. I did work out a problem of shifter location. I was trying to figure out how I could beef up the M5R1 but it just could not be done and gear ratios were terrible . That left me with the T5 and a shifter in my elbow . I wondered if a S10 tail shaft would work on a Ford T5 case locating the shifter 8 inches forward and I found someone that was making them but he was wanting 1850.00 for them , you would think he was trying to make some money off doing them. While I was looking in to it I discovered the S10's from 93 on that had T5's in them they were world class and built with ford cases , go figure. The ratios are terrible but all I have to do is change the gear set to a 295 and do the secret up grade to beef it to 400 foot pounds of torque and have a race prepped T5 with a new shifter location . I can buy a brand new S10 T5 for 450 and do the mods and have one for under 900.00 . Problem Solved ! I need to do an piece on this and share a how to. I will take pictures when I do it and give it to Curtis. I just didn't want to end up with a shifter like this this , not that his is not a good looking job and it would cost less, I just don't like the look.

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Moderator

With regard to the rubber hood hold-downs, four is too many. These devices are most commonly used on heavy trucks (2 per hood) and on those trucks they'll see much heavier loads and more movement than on your bugeye. Smaller rubber hold-downs are commonly used on heavy truck battery box lids. IMHO, it would be far more elegant and convenient to have a cable operated hood release mechanism, as used on Volvo heavy trucks. If you feel you must have rubber hold-downs, perhaps consider recessed hold-downs. (As I recall, you'll find them on many Freightliners, and maybe also on some of the Mack on-highway models.)

I eliminated my grille quite early on. (The original one had been crunched.) I soon found that I needed some sort of screen to protect my radiator. I bought some stainless steel mesh from McMaster Carr... and I'd suggest you should probably plan on doing the same if this car will be driven many miles. If you like, you can have it powder coated or you can recess it so it's less conspicuous.
1971 MGB GT V8
Buick 215 w/ Rover heads, custom EFI & crank-fired ignition.
Custom front and rear coilover suspensions.

jim

I have an s10 2.2 T5 in my bugeye the shifter is in the right spot I am told the 2.2 is the ford bolt pattern the 2.8 t5 is larger
I would like to hear more about your gear change  first gear is way to low I just use 2-5
jim

B-Fast B-Strong

Jim,
If it's a Ford pattern then it must be a 93 up transmission and those are world class , you can buy a 2.95 close ratio gear set right on Ebay for 388.00 and have a great transmission here is the link > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350298474246&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMESINDXX%3AIT
While you have it apart replace that stamped retainer at 5th gear with a machined one and that will boost the torque it will take and make it pretty bullet proof. They are not really hard to work on and it does not take all that many special tools but you are not comfortable with that your local transmission shop would be able to do it.
That sure will make your Bugeye a lot more fun to drive and keep whatever engine you have in it  up in it's higher range were it makes more power which will make it a little quicker too. Good luck with it.
William

jim

that price is better than GM wholesale from a dealer I know well for 5th gear and syncro was $ 600.00 so I bought a used tranney
for $150.00 and it works good I will have to think about that gear set I have a converted fwd 60 degree gm v6 3.4 in the bug eye
it a lot of fun I just narrowed a GM 10 bolt out of a astro with a 3.42 with pozie gears have to get rid of that 4.10 sprite rear
just to low geared your concept car and your bug eye looks real good good luck
jim

B-Fast B-Strong

Jim,
Do you know if your case is world class,. should be if it is a Ford pattern cased S10.  I'm going to run a 8.8 Ford rear end with 4.10 limited slip but I will have an engine that revs 9000 rpm. Decided to build the impractical one , not going to drive it but on nice days anyway , mostly weekends ! You can find some bargains on Ebay for sure, so I guess you liked that link I PM'ed you !
Post pictures of your Bugeye in the Gallery , there is not one up there with a GM V6 you would be the first !
William

t.lay

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Just attach body parts to this and you're good to go.