MGB Roadmaster

[Citron]

Carl and Bill,
Thanks for the kind words, but feel I should buy them at some price- Say $100?

Steve

[Bill Young]

If you feel you must then the project and the group would be greatful. There's no doubt that pretty soon we'll be gitting into areas where there won't be any substitute for some cash in the treasury to cover some items. I'm working on an update to the original article Curtis published, trying to get a handle on where we are and what parts or components we still need and in what order. Looks like the fender flares are sorted, what do we need as far as repair panels for the body? Someone out there might have some extra sill pieces that went unused from a project that they would donate. How about seats? I have a pair of APC seats I bought several years ago for my Midget but they wouldn't fit, the upper back side hits on the edge of the cockpit. Don't know if they'd fit the GT but if they will I'll throw those in when the time comes. They look a lot like the grey ones shown.

[BlownMGB-V8]

I agree with everything above, and however you guys want to handle it is fine with me. Personally I feel like Steve is entitled to any of his donated parts that we don't use. We have to keep in mind the tax considerations, but that's easy enough.

Looks like I will be able to use one of the 300 heads that were donated, I decided not to use the one with the bad spark plug hole, so I'll need to deposit some money for the one head to the badass account. I've been watching online auctions and as near as I can tell the going price for rebuildable heads in fair condition is around 100 to 150 a pair and I was really waiting to see what Dale is going to charge me for putting them into usable shape before making the deposit. I figured that would be a fair indicator of the actual condition. I should know how much that is before Steve gets here. I can't remember if there was anything else I wanted to use, nothing comes to mind right now.

About the steering rack, we'll have to do some thinking about how to handle that the best. Arthur's crossmember and rack are not usable without modification due to the steering relocation. Steve's crossmember and rack have the modifications that are needed. I don't recall if there is another rack or not, but I'm thinking maybe not. Assuming Arthur's rack is unmodified Steve could use that but it's a new unit. Also he could use Arthur's crossmember but it's hot dip galvanized. I do however have a couple of other stock crossmembers and Steve, you are more than welcome to one of those. I know that doesn't help all that much with the rack but we can look around and see if there might be another one here, or we can agree to what Steve should give the project for  Arthur's steering rack if he wants that one.

Steve, if you don't mind I'd like to inventory our parts while you're here and decide which ones to offer and which ones to keep. Maybe we can raise some cash that way. The other thing is that we do have sheet metal parts that Denny and Dan B took off the mule and maybe we can decide what else we need then. Pete has asked us to let him know what sheet metal parts we need, as he may have some of them. I'm going to keep after tires and also since it looks like the flywheel will be a hard to find item I'll see if I can get TA to donate those instead of the heads. Andy B (my other brother) is working on getting us a blower and I hope to know something on that in about a week or so. Hope you guys don't mind.

Jim

[Citron]

Jim,
All that sounds fine.
Gives us something to do while I'm there.
I have gotten in touch with friend who works for Custom Printwear.  They embroder t-shirts and nearly anything else.  I just sent him the picture of the patch.  He will get me prices and so forth.  They do not make patches, so we have to use womeone else.  At least we will get some idea of the prices.
How many do we think we'll need?

Steve

[rficalora]

Jim, a few folks mentioned the Roadmaster project isn't going to be using the CB pedal box.  If that's true let me know what kind of shape they're in & what the project would want for them.  

I have a pedal box & pedals from a CB parts car I bought a while back, but they're a bit crusty & pitted.  If the one from the project isn't rusty or pitted, that'd save me some time so I'd I'll buy them.  Or, if the project needs a RB pedal box &/or vacuum booster, maybe I can trade the set-up from my '76 with the project... anyway, let me know.

[BlownMGB-V8]

I'm back, well mostly anyways. Florida was a real nice change of pace and the warm weather followed us back, temporarily anyway. But then I had to tolerate a minor medical procedure, one of those things you have to put up with occasionally and it'll be a few days before I'm right and even more before I start feeling caught up.

There's good news, the wheels came in and I've got some photos to share. Let me know what you think. Also, on the patches, we need to get pricing for different quantities. I'm thinking an initial order of 100 should be manageable but we should get pricing for 50, 100, 250 and 500. Rob, I'll have to get out there and look, give me a few days and I'll try to have an answer.

First shot also has the flares, more on those in the next post

The rim width is 9-1/2" which gives good backspacing for the suspension. As long as the rim clears everything else should (except the tire)

I set up one shot to try to get a sort of visual on how it might look

The rim width puts it in contact with the inner fender on the inside and flush with the bodywork on the outside. That would be ~10-1/2" so with a 3" flare we have probably a max of 1-1/2" per side to play with.


Jim

[Citron]

Jim,
Glad your back and hope you get to feeling better.
The wheels look great to me.  Do you still need my Jag wheels?
I have some pricing and will discuss it when I'm up there.
I will try to post a picture of the design that the company here came up with.
I am still planing to get there on the 24 th.
Dale said to get in touch with him on the Monday before I leave to see if he has the work done.  Hope so.


Steve

[rficalora]

No rush on the pedal box Jim.  I had some time on Sunday so I modified the one I have to fit.  I'm still interested in the one from the project -- mainly for the pedals, bushings, & hardware -- if they're in good shape.  My pedal box itself wasn't as bad as I originally thought, but the pedals themselves look like they sat in a bucket of water for a while.

[MGBV8]

This in from Steve DeGroat:

[Bill Young]

Of course I like it Steve, ready to order a couple in time for July. Also would be nice to wear at a lot of our local events to stir up interest in the project.

[Citron]

The design in the post above is from the people at the embroidary company.  Thaey midified the original a little .  They claim it will be easier to read and see, AND for them to produce.
If it suits people, I will get with Jim about quantities and costs.

Steve

[MGBV8]

Is that going to be the color of the Roadmaster, or am I going to have to buy another shirt after it's painted?

It would be nice to have the correct color right off the bat.

[Citron]

Carl,
Good point.  That is the original color of the car.  Has there been any discusion of color?

Steve

[Bill Young]

Good point Steve, I don't think we've even thought about the final color yet. I picked that image from the web because it was both a clean image to work with and it was a similar color to the car we're starting with. I kind of like a dark green GT and it would give us a little more leeway on interior color.

[Citron]

Carl,
What's wrong with changing colors and having people buy another shirt.  This is supposed to be a fund raiser.

Steve

[MGBV8]

Besides that I need more funds for my own MG?  

[Bill Young]

That's right Carl, we have to keep our priorities in the right order. ;-) Looks like "Frank" is going to need a new set of tires this year, so my cash contributions to the project my have to suffer a bit. Got to keep the midget on the road though. I'll still figure out at way to get a shirt or two and some patches when the time comes.

[BlownMGB-V8]

Here are the photos of the fender flares:





You can see in the photos that the red ones are from the front and the white ones are the rear. They have the indentation for the rear door, and on the back side you can see that while the fronts are attached to the inner fender by removable fasteners, the rears are welded together, meaning a bit more work to use them. You can also figure out which rear one is right or left by the indentations but I don't know how to tell the front ones apart.

You guys have been doing great on the t-shirts and all. My compliments. About all I can think to add right now is for Steve: Yes, we will need two wheels for the front.

Jim

[BlownMGB-V8]

Ok, it's taken me awhile, but here are the photos of the car with my roadster's wheels and tires sitting in the wheelwells. I reckon we can use these for layout and to display the car at the summer meet, but after that I'll have to reclaim them. The size is 315/35-17" and as we discussed using 275's for the Roadmaster that would leave us 40mm of extra clearance and I think that will be right handy. Although it looks like the flares will cover them, we're tight against the inner fenderwell.

Jim









Bill, does that look like the way those fender flares are supposed to attach?

Rob, I haven't had a chance to look at the pedal boxes yet, I've got to flip the car body over so I can see if we'll have any issues with clearance using the later box. I'll try to do that tomorrow.

J

[Citron]

Jim,
Wheels and tires do look good.  Also the flares.
I will bring the two jag rims with me Thursday.
I have e-mailed Dale to see if I can pick up the engine stuff.  Hope I can.  That would get it up there easily.
Are we still on for this weekend?

Steve

[Bill Young]

Jim, the flares look good. I never realized how well they fit the profile of the MGB body until I saw these photos. Most of the time you only see the job after it's done or at least the trimming and welding is done. I also just had a "duh" moment, I just realized that you hadn't managed to find a way of alterning the rule of gravity with the tires, but that the car was still upside down and the photos just inverted. It was some thing in the background that caught my attention and then "Duh" a V8 moment. Hope you guys have a good time and get a lot accomplished.

[MGBV8]

Pro Streeter City!!

Looks awesome & worthy of a BBB.

Sorry to say that I'll be at my cousin's wedding this weekend.  Only fair since he was at mine 19 years ago. Besides, it's high time he joined the misery at age 43.

[rficalora]

V6 Midget Wrote:
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> I also just had a "duh" moment, I just realized that you hadn't managed to find a way of alterning the rule of gravity with
> the tires, but that the car was still upside down and the photos just inverted. It was some thing in
> the background that caught my attention and then "Duh" a V8 moment.

And I was just thinking hanging the spare wheels fromt he ceiling was a great idea -- out of the way & they don't get scratched up...

[BlownMGB-V8]

Well is That what happens when you turn the camera upside down? I think you guys give me too much credit. How about this?

One side,


And the other side.


OK, dumb. But I thought it was kinda fun anyway.

Steve, we're still on and I've been cleaning up the place. Been great weather for it. I noticed that I do have a vacant engine stand (the one Dan left) so if you want to leave yours home that would be OK. Is Margaret coming, and when do you plan to arrive? I understand that Dale bought a set of rings and bearings so we may be able to begin assembly while you're here.

Jim

[74ls1tr6]

Wow!!
 That is some "Wide as in BIG" rubber and makes that GT look Bad A-- :-)